Yoyorast Island V2 last problems

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Originally Posted by Jean-Luc

Most recent beta really surprised me. Never in a million years would I have suspected that a level with such an unique style and layout would lend itself to astonishingly good gameplay. Looking forward to final release much more now :D

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That's nice to hear! Happy you enjoyed... this is because its not a them parc as people can imagine before trying it.. it's a dam think and rethink complex strategicly created in each detail to serve one thing : The gameplay.

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Originally Posted by StankBacon

i just wish yoyorast would learn the hek and do it himself, i never really understood why he hasn't . its fuckin easy.

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Shame on me, you're right... But be helped to do something at the begining and you never learn by yourself... At the begining I was full time on the modeling part so I hadn't time to do anything else.. I could have learned when I ended with the modeling part... but it went this way.. that's life.. it took more time this way but.. anyway it's like past stuff now, the map is like done.. dont blame inferno, he made a very good job.. could have been faster or more passionated sometimes but.. it's completly normal, he joined someone else project, it's not like if it was his baby form scratch.. And let me tell you something, some other partners I had been so much less concerned to the HEK work I was asking them... leaving me sometimes with no news for more than one month.. inferno nerver did that.. he made a lot.. and others before made alot too... But frankly belive me or not, this is not something bout ego, this is the truth : I'm really ok to say it's a team work in the end... but one thing I know is that no one worked on it as I did, even if I not been in the script, lightmap and hek stuff myself. I'm telling this cause I saw "he's only a modler"... I'm not "only" a modler, I'm also a Remodeler damit lol... and remodeling an island like that took me ages for tons of reasons I'm not gonna list here.. nor I'm gonna list everything I made.. but you know sometimes leading/pushing/driving partners to do the job can take more strengh than doing the job itself.

Ok. I've had it.
No more bitching about putting in any kind of random useless shit.
What made v1 so great was its gameplay and uniqueness, but it never went overboard, and any regular Halo CE player (such as myself) could use it with no problem.
Now here's v2... and you want to integrate it with OpenSauce?(I don't even know what that is). Won't that make the map like, 10 times more complicated to use?
Let me just say, If I have to do anything more than click the map and gametype to choose my vehicles and host a server... I'm not downloading.
I think that Yoyo has been too influenced by the team's ideas. Yoyo v1 was ALL yoyo's ideas, and all the team did was make it. However, I'm afraid v2 has lost that quality. :suicide:

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Originally Posted by EX12693

Ok. I've had it.
No more bitching about putting in any kind of random useless shit.
What made v1 so great was its gameplay and uniqueness, but it never went overboard, and any regular Halo CE player (such as myself) could use it with no problem.
Now here's v2... and you want to integrate it with OpenSauce?(I don't even know what that is). Won't that make the map like, 10 times more complicated to use?
Let me just say, If I have to do anything more than click the map and gametype to choose my vehicles and host a server... I'm not downloading.
I think that Yoyo has been too influenced by the team's ideas. Yoyo v1 was ALL yoyo's ideas, and all the team did was make it. However, I'm afraid v2 has lost that quality. :suicide:

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Belive me EX , there's nothing in this map I didn't want nor decided to put.. and it's like even better than I dreamed it when I 1st started. You'll see when we'll play in full player.. going to be hard core fun game.

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Originally Posted by EX12693

Now here's v2... and you want to integrate it with OpenSauce?(I don't even know what that is). Won't that make the map like, 10 times more complicated to use?

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Using OS is not complicated at all. It's as simple as copying and pasting a dll into your Halo CE directory and never having to touch it again. I don't know why people make it out to be harder than it actually is.

But as I stated earlier, I don't agree with forcing people to use OS in Yoyo V2. It is pointless to use it for the sole purpose of MTV. Why would you want to help your enemies by driving them around? Dwood, just give it a rest. Yoyorast doesn't want to use it, end of story.

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Originally Posted by ShadowSpartan

Dwood, just give it a rest. Yoyorast doesn't want to use it, end of story.

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That's what I said at end of chat that's not copy + pasted.

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Originally Posted by yoyorast

Belive me EX , there's nothing in this map I didn't want nor decided to put.. and it's like even better than I dreamed it when I 1st started. You'll see when we'll play in full player.. going to be hard core fun game.

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Well I won't be able to play till friday... but whatever. At least I was in the beta. And Inferno says my name's somewhere on the map. :smith:

If a map uses OS, I feel the introduction of OS needs to happen at the start of the map creation. Not during or at the end of the map.

OS in a map, designed for the use of OS would be phenomenal, the only reason I havent ventured into it, is because stubborn Dennis won't allow maps if they require OS to play, what an opportunity wasted.

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Originally Posted by Limited

If a map uses OS, I feel the introduction of OS needs to happen at the start of the map creation. Not during or at the end of the map.

OS in a map, designed for the use of OS would be phenomenal, the only reason I havent ventured into it, is because stubborn Dennis won't allow maps if they require OS to play, what an opportunity wasted.

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What Dennis of Halomaps doesn't want the OS maps on his site? and noone told me that.. ok no need to discuss anything else about whetehr or not its good for the gameplay or not, complicated or not... This reason itslef close the debate for me...

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Originally Posted by yoyorast

What Dennis of Halomaps doesn't want the OS maps on his site? and noone told me that.. ok no need to discuss anything else about whetehr or not its good for the gameplay or not, complicated or not... This reason itslef close the debate for me...

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Hes said in the past that he could never get OS to work for his Halo, mainly because hes and idiot and stuff. Hence why Jcap made the OS debug thread, Dennis said he wouldnt accept OS stuff, he may have changed his mind, but I very much doubt it.

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Originally Posted by Limited

Hes said in the past that he could never get OS to work for his Halo, mainly because hes and idiot and stuff.

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i lol'd

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Just because Dennis can't use it means that halomaps cant have it? Ffs dont do that!

Wait, since when was Dennis and idiot?

I'm so sorry I spent any of my time helping with the project and working on this. Maybe the world is better off without me finishing the map since all of you seem to hate the way that I do things.


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I've had a terrible day and you are not helping.

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Originally Posted by chrisk123999

Wait, since when was Dennis and idiot?

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Oh...silent d, but only when used in that exact sentence..I thought everyone knew that...>_>

dodged that bullet :O

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Originally Posted by Inferno

I'm so sorry I spent any of my time helping with the project and working on this. Maybe the world is better off without me finishing the map since all of you seem to hate the way that I do things.


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I've had a terrible day and you are not helping.

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At least I'm not better without you finishing what"s left before the release man :-3 ... I know you gave a lot, let's finish this tomrow... Tomorow is another day man, and it's my birthday also :woop:

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Originally Posted by yoyorast

At least I'm not better without you finishing what"s left before the release man :-3 ... I know you gave a lot, let's finish this tomrow... Tomorow is another day man, and it's my birthday also :woop:

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Well how about some Birthday Sex?

Its also my bday tomorrow!
And I think I may FINALLY have gotten the mongoose physics fixed!

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Originally Posted by Inferno

I'm so sorry I spent any of my time helping with the project and working on this. Maybe the world is better off without me finishing the map since all of you seem to hate the way that I do things.


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I've had a terrible day and you are not helping.

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...Okay, see this? Stop fucking with people's heads. (not directed towards you inferno)

This not a pity party nor is it an OS rage-fest. You know damn good and well OS doesn't have to be integrated at any specific time nor is it THAT FUCKING HARD to put into the root folder of halo. Why must everything be complicated with people??? yoyo only wants the best for his map and those who have experienced it the way he has obviously feels the same. They've achieved what they wanted from V2. Congratulations.

Everyone needs to cut the bullshit on this fucking site. If you don't like the idea of OS, THAT'S GREAT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. You've all learned time and time again "In the end, it's going to come out the way the creator wants it to". While staying on topic of this thread, that means Yoyo wants his map without OS. Well, FUCK. That's something anyone can agree on! The whole idea of including OS or not IS IN-FACT IRRELEVANT. The idea has been opened for HUMOR. So, when this is over with, in the end Yoyo WILL decide whether or not he wants OS or not, it's not for you to decide. It's up to yoyo whether he prefers OS over classic due to extended gameplay, whther it just be for spawning MTV's or not.

Take it in good and clear and ask yourself "What's the harm in giving this guy a chance to change our experience? Sure, I might have to add a file IN THE GODDAMN ROOT FOLDER, seeing as how this will help me in my game experience with the map, Am I willing enough to move my hand a LITTLE more and do about 1 MORE click just to do this?"

Note: You can add on the to the .dll with more and more OS's applications with just combing them, or you can just replace the ONE file in your root folder and be done for the rest of your days.

Fucking quit it guys, read up on things, then give it an educated opinion. Stop being so lazy you can't even give it a decent thought of how things will improve or deteriorate experience in the long run. Not to get too personal, but, seriously? it's people like this that will wreck me all the way to my own suicide.

btw although it may not sound like it, I'm totally Bias on the OS and "classic" debate.

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Originally Posted by ShadowSpartan

Using OS is not complicated at all. It's as simple as copying and pasting a dll into your Halo CE directory and never having to touch it again.

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TBH I Don't think 1/6 of the kids that play halo ce and download yoyov2 will put the .dll into the directory, They download the zip, keep the map and throw away everything else, not bothering to look at the images, read me, etc..

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Originally Posted by tythespy

TBH I Don't think 1/6 of the kids that play halo ce and download yoyov2 will put the .dll into the directory, They download the zip, keep the map and throw away everything else, not bothering to look at the images, read me, etc..

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Pretty much..

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Originally Posted by tythespy

TBH I Don't think 1/6 of the kids that play halo ce and download yoyov2 will put the .dll into the directory, They download the zip, keep the map and throw away everything else, not bothering to look at the images, read me, etc..

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I don't even read the readmes. I also don't want to send a dll around and explain how to install it every time I pass maps around at a LAN.

And I also don't want a million threads concerning problems with OS and HOW DOES I INSTALL OS and what not.

Why not make the map files into an auto installer and have it place files where they need to be?

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Originally Posted by Matooba

Why not make it the map files into an auto installer and have it place files where they need to be?

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Because that would be smart (?)

Why go through the trouble for something that will add little to no game play value?

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Originally Posted by Inferno

Why go through the trouble for something that will add little to no game play value?

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Inferno, its just a matter of a few clicks and a point to. Real easy. Just a thought.

lol stop fighting over me!

Fine, Yoyorast, go ahead and release the map without OS MTV.

If it's wanted I can host an MTV enabled server for awhile, all the end user would have to do is make sure they get the d3d9.dll file for OS MTV and place it in their installation root directory.

Geez, more drama than a hospital scene in a mexican soap opera. I just want to play the map - however the author releases it. Some people need to lighten up.

I appreciate and wish I was as skilled as many of you in making maps. It also seems that some have lost touch with the simple enjoyment of game play. Including gameplay that is solely dependent on the players ability and adaptability within different maps. Especially issues that may resemble a flaw to the modelers/makers is only a unique attribute that is fun to everyone else. On one hand I envy your skill, on the other, I wish you could enjoy the game like everyone else who is not a map maker/modeler.

Don't forget the audience, and don't cater to every nit-picking-squabling nerd that claims they represent the audience's interest.

Release it however you wish, but do it soon please. And thank you to all who contributed to it (including the nit-picking-squabling nerdy assmunchers for shutting the hell up, and putting ego aside).

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Originally Posted by NerveBooger

Geez, more drama than a hospital scene in a mexican soap opera. I just want to play the map - however the author releases it. Some people need to lighten up.

I appreciate and wish I was as skilled as many of you in making maps. It also seems that some have lost touch with the simple enjoyment of game play. Including gameplay that is solely dependent on the players ability and adaptability within different maps. Especially issues that may resemble a flaw to the modelers/makers is only a unique attribute that is fun to everyone else. On one hand I envy your skill, on the other, I wish you could enjoy the game like everyone else who is not a map maker/modeler.

Don't forget the audience, and don't cater to every nit-picking-squabling nerd that claims they represent the audience's interest.

Release it however you wish, but do it soon please. And thank you to all who contributed to it (including the nit-picking-squabling nerdy assmunchers for shutting the hell up, and putting ego aside).

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People typically create things to their standards, not to the audience's. This is especially true in the arts, and I think map-making is very much an art. This nit-picking "nerd" process is necessary for a well-polished map that the creator can feel proud of. I understand that you have different standards, but your impatience means nothing and makes no difference. I imagine a lot of the things that make maps fun were the product of nit-picking like this, but of course it goes unknown by the people who play the map. The design process isn't what the player sees when they play.

Whole lot of people getting mad over nothing ITT :lol:

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Originally Posted by n00b1n8R

Whole lot of people getting mad over nothing ITT :lol:

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This is srs bznss.

Map might be finished today. Cross your fingers.

Coolz

This might be a day to remember!

I'mma crossin' mine!

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Originally Posted by Lateksi

This might be a day to remember!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A7UjrZnOuo

Should I go and finish the release video maybe?

if the map isnt done today, prepare to see a few members not posting anymore.



















:-3

Yeah, if it's not done, you might as well add OS to it. I pm'ed Dennis and he said that he would accept Open-Sauce dependant maps.

</humorlesspost> He never explicitly said no. And not only that, he also hinted that if people would make OS-dependant maps he would host them. (Not at u YoYoRast)

Well if yohan would login... :saddowns:

Sent him a message. Lol, his stat "yoyorast is at a loss for words."

back!

And ye it could be released today .. but 1st, I got some last stuff for inferno to fix.. working on it right now.. then we have to last test.. if everything is ok.. then it's the big day.

sweet. It's good to hear. Now I have a good reason to get back on Halo and play on a good map.

so test friday?

I guess you could say the Yoyo has returned.
:caruso:

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Originally Posted by Shamisen

I guess you could say the Yoyo has returned.
:caruso:

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whast sad is thsi map will PROBABLY go unnoticed as most of CE plays either stock maps (not such a bad thing) or they play zombies and coldsnap adn can't be torn away from their sphere

if thsi DOES get released this week i think we should have yoyo v2 day where every server runs the map xD

<3 testing this and can't wait for the final build to go public

i'll help make it for real if you ever decide to really go ahead with it

You know, if these physics are fine, you guys really fucking owe me.
you_owe_me_big_time.map

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Originally Posted by Pyong Kawaguchi

You know, if these physics are fine, you guys really fucking owe me.
you_owe_me_big_time.map

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what if they aren't perfect?

I rape him with a wrench.

Then I rape him with a dodge ball.

D:

So its delayed till: Oct 9,2009.

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Originally Posted by Freelancer

Then I rape him with a dodge ball.

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http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...er44801396.jpg

Beta tomorrow. We fixed everything today.

Everything.
Everything.
Everything.
Everything.
Everything.
Everything.
Everything.

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Originally Posted by tythespy

So its delayed till: Oct 9,2009.

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Ye, final test tomorow afterall and maybe release.. but it's like ready now.. ferno fixed the last issues..

Wait, the physics are good?
Awesome.
Everyone here owes me +rep
seriously >: D

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Originally Posted by Inferno

Beta tomorrow. We fixed everything today.

Everything.
Everything.
Everything.
Everything.
Everything.
Everything.
Everything.

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I bet you missed a script.

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Originally Posted by Pyong Kawaguchi

Wait, the physics are good?
Awesome.
Everyone here owes me +rep
seriously >: D

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Oh, well, I could still rape you with the giant squash thing.

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

I bet you missed a script.

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(Knock on wood)

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Originally Posted by Dwood

(Knock on wood)

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ATTN:Modacity, Yoyo held back till 2012.
:gonk:

I should start a pool on what the next issue with YoyoV2 is.

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Originally Posted by sdavis117

I should start a pool on what the next issue with YoyoV2 is.

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Well it'll most likely be a shortcut that no one thought about.

if there IS one

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Originally Posted by Dwood

Well it'll most likely be a shortcut that no one thought about.

if there IS one

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Nah, it will be a really serious issue like a exception error or something.
Maybe infernos computer decides its had enough and has a hard drive failure.

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Originally Posted by Pyong Kawaguchi

Wait, the physics are good?
Awesome.
Everyone here owes me +rep
seriously >: D

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I have to say, we didn't tested the last ATV physics yet, we'll see tomorow..

Yoyo, want me to make a build so you can test them?

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Originally Posted by Pyong Kawaguchi

Yoyo, want me to make a build so you can test them?

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AIM :downs:

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

Nah, it will be a really serious issue like a exception error or something.
Maybe infernos computer decides its had enough and has a hard drive failure.

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That would suck. hard.

Don't worry, I have a younger version of the tags, not the newest, but that isn't the point.

I back up the tags regularly. Dun wurry. it all gun b K.

So I found a topic for Yoyo V2 on page 143 in the Halomaps General CE Discussion from June '07.

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Guys thanks for reading and be prepared for V2 it's coming soon for real!

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:ugh:

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Originally Posted by sevlag

whast sad is thsi map will PROBABLY go unnoticed as most of CE plays either stock maps (not such a bad thing) or they play zombies and coldsnap adn can't be torn away from their sphere

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hay mai spher is awsum. :hay::iia:. 'specially wit new gamesrvers soon.

Well I'll actually be sure to check this thing out, since it sounds like it'll be big and pretty good. It may even become a random part of my server's mapcycle.

I don't think V2 will have any problems with popularity, just look at the hype around it and how popular V1 was. The only reason it's not one of the most played maps anymore is that people finally got bored of it (only took 2 years) and V2 is definetly better from what I've played of it.

Hope you've sharped your knives pooks :q:

Word will get out. People will go, "Yoyo V2? HOLY SHIT!" and go download it.
Diesel PL 3rd Server NY will probably switch from 24/7 Yoyo V1 to 24/7 Yoyo V2, etc.

Is that server still up?
I was maining it back in fucking 06 O_o

Last I checked, it was, but I haven't checked for a while.
I used to main that server, too, but as of late it's had 0/16 players...

Yurr,Im ready for a beta yuss.

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Originally Posted by n00b1n8R

Hope you've sharped your knives pooks :q:

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It's never going to happen. Hell, it's been 'the last beta' for what, 2 weeks now?

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Originally Posted by n00b1n8R

Is that server still up?
I was maining it back in fucking 06 O_o

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I've been banned from that server since fucking 06. Pissed off one of the whiny kiddie admins, I think.

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Originally Posted by Aßyll

hay mai spher is awsum. :hay::iia:. 'specially wit new gamesrvers soon.

Well I'll actually be sure to check this thing out, since it sounds like it'll be big and pretty good. It may even become a random part of my server's mapcycle.

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actually aybll you're server isnt as popular as it once was as POQ has encroched on your zombie territory and i had forgotten you had one up cause last I played CE for other than testing it was down. so yeah not poitned at you in general

and v2 may get lukewarm reception some people i talk to while playing CE said they hated v1 for unkown reasons (probably because they suck at not getting spawnkilled amirite?)

anyways when we gonna build it for real?

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Originally Posted by sevlag

anyways when we gonna build it for real?

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Work begins the day after V2 is released.

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Originally Posted by Freelancer

Work begins the day after V2 is released.

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ok so whos bringin the excavation tools?

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Originally Posted by Pooky

It's never going to happen. Hell, it's been 'the last beta' for what, 2 weeks now?



I've been banned from that server since fucking 06. Pissed off one of the whiny kiddie admins, I think.

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owned

So is a beta happening today?

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Originally Posted by sdavis117

So is a beta happening today?

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I was wondering that.

And I'm wondering how you replied so quickly.

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Originally Posted by sdavis117

And I'm wondering how you replied so quickly.

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It was a coinkydink.

I'd like to play too :-3

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Originally Posted by Dwood

It was a coinkydink.

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Sure it was...

*Looks outside window*

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Originally Posted by sdavis117

Sure it was...

*Looks outside window*

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Watch for a sign.

Sorry , just got back from my birtehday party.. I'm trying to contact inferno right now.. maybe beta in one hour or so..

Happy birtehday yoyorast

HBD Yoyorast!

hehe, thank you guys, appreciate.

Yeah! Happy birthday Y-rast :P

Happy Birthday person who has been playing ping-pong with my hopes for the last 2 years.

To today being a good birthday for you, and the day YoyoV2 comes out (or tomorrow if you feel the beta test goes too late for you to release it tonight).

hbd frenchy

Happy Birthday Yohan!!!
http://www.ryans-stuff.com/media/thu...thday_cake.jpg

This is why we have community discussion threads. Let's stay on topic.

It's too much guys, thks... Be the testers ready , beta starting in less then 30 min.

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Originally Posted by Shamisen

This is why we have community discussion threads. Let's stay on topic.

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Yoyorast is by far, cooler than any moderator or admin here, therefore the (stupid) community discussion forum can be easily ignored.'

Anyway, map is uploading to my server, eta is 30 minutes...

Fake edit: Ninjad by Yoyo...