Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)

the fuck is this shit.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/14/sopa-protect-ip_n_1140180.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

TLDR welcome to american internet censorship controlled by the entertainment industry. They now have the power to can shut down whatever domains they want if they feel it's linked to piracy or copyright infringement. Going to be voted on tomorrow I believe. Big-name supporters like Apple, EA, Nintendo, Sony, Activision, etc. Opposition includes Google, Yahoo!, Facebook, Twitter, AOL, LinkedIn, eBay, Mozilla Corporation, the Brookings Institution, and human rights organizations such as Reporters Without Borders.

The beginning of iLife.

This ought to be good

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...opcorn_yes.gif

welp. since we're all posting halo screenshots and mods we're obviously infringing copyrights.

been nice knowing you guys~~

At the rate things have been going on Capitol Hill, this'll probably get passed regardless of the People's opinion.

Hope they know that the more they do in the name of protecting their profits, the harder their shit's going to get "stolen."

The moment it get's passed, I'm going to report as many of the sites that supported it for copyright violation as possible and get them shut down. I don't want them stealing my awesome song or even allowing people to steal my awesome song that could make me billions of dollars.

i vote cut off america from the internet alltogether.

Internet2.0 incoming!
and imagine all the intelligent discussins that shall be had without mindless americans spouting their drivel.

edit: no offence to any american citizens present here who have intellect capable of restraining itself from spouting said drivel.

I love watching Let's Plays. I can't imagine what this is going to do to Slyfox, GassyMexican and all of machinima.com.



I'm scared.

I thought we already had a thread on this from months ago?

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I thought we already had a thread on this from months ago?

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That was ACTA.

I never saw it and I don't see anything skimming the first page.

Whoo-hoo. It's about time we had another "Prohibition". This will obviously cause more problems than it solves. Hopefully the government officials can get their heads out of their asses long enough to realize that they screwed up.

Looks like a reworded PROTECT-IP, but I thought this was a few months old?

So let me get this straight, America is trying to get total control of the internet? Fuck that shit.

http://www.keepthewebopen.com/sopa

Live coverage of the bill.

i hope it passes, and then the EU declares war on the US :D

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i hope it passes, and then the EU declares war on the US :D

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They're more likely to call us a "shining example of forward thinking" and one-up us with an amendment to the EU charter that shuts off the internet altogether.

EU politicians are of a lower degree of braindead than US politicians, i doubt that'd happen.

Straight from the Twitter of Team Meat.
I have never loved a game developer more than Team Meat right now.
http://i.imgur.com/05Poa.png

http://www.waitingforthestorm.com/li...-hall-of-shame
http://www.thedominoproject.com/2011...-internet.html

like people will all stop using their Iphone.
everyone's always all up in arms shouting YEAH BOYCOTT BOYCOTT, but they'll all buy in at the very first second they can.

I'd say that's reason enough to crack my iphone now.

Time to go download some keygens and pirated movies.

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Time to go download some keygens and pirated movies.

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Yeah that's a great idea, give them even more reason to back this bill.

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Yeah that's a great idea, give them even more reason to back this bill.

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The Internet doesn't project sarcasm very well. Still, it would be rediculous how much pirating would increase as soon as this bill is passed (which, given the circumstances, the bill probably will). I'm no more into it than the next guy.

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Yeah that's a great idea, give them even more reason to back this bill.

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Hollywood and software giants are like giant aspies. They don't get the subtle hints that the stricter they license their media, the more it's going to get cracked and pirated, especially when the DRM gets in the way for legitimate end users/viewers.

I'm not saying I am or am not contributing to it, but if the bill gets passed, the results will probably be hilarious.

http://rdr.zazzle.com/img/imt-dzn/pd...The+Aspie!.jpg

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http://www.waitingforthestorm.com/li...-hall-of-shame
http://www.thedominoproject.com/2011...-internet.html

like people will all stop using their Iphone.
everyone's always all up in arms shouting YEAH BOYCOTT BOYCOTT, but they'll all buy in at the very first second they can.

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I know it's alphabetized, but I find it hilarious that Autodesk and Adobe are at the top. Two of the worst software monopolists right now. Sorry, I don't care how productive your software is, but paying $4000 for something intangible (like code) is a joke for non-studio purposes. How is a man supposed to teach himself to use your product so he can get a job, using your product (and therefore supporting it), if he can't afford the product at home to learn with?

Has this failed yet?

Meeting was adjourned. They're going to try again in 2012.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397764,00.asp

Now we need to focus on Protect IP...

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Opposition includes Google, Yahoo!, Facebook, Twitter, AOL, LinkedIn, eBay, Mozilla Corporation, the Brookings Institution, and human rights organizations such as Reporters Without Borders.

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If said organization continues to oppose this it will never pass, we all know Google practically owns the Internet.

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If said organization continues to oppose this it will never pass, we all know Google practically owns the Internet.

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It owns 3 of the four most visited websites. Yep.avi

Yeah, but both Microsoft and Apple are backing it, not to mention practically the entire entertainment industry.

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Yeah, but both Microsoft and Apple are backing it, not to mention practically the entire entertainment industry.

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There's always room for a little bit of hostile takeover.

Microsoft is actually against it from what I hear.

I heard Hitler was against it. He's a good guy.

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I heard Hitler was against it. He's a good guy.

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Im pretty sure hes dead or at least a hundred years old by now. Even if Hitler were alive he probably wouldn't know how to use a computer.

:sheldon:

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Im pretty sure hes dead or at least a hundred years old by now. Even if Hitler were alive he probably wouldn't know how to use a computer.

:sheldon:

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Same goes for 99% of Congress. :downs:

IDK man, this guy seemed to be pretty tech savvy.

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Microsoft is actually against it from what I hear.

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Seeing as how Team Meat has/had a contract with Microsoft, it makes sense that they were able to get away with their twitter comment.

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Seeing as how Team Meat has/had a contract with Microsoft, it makes sense that they were able to get away with their twitter comment.

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which one was that

the boycott & pirate all their shit- one

Wow. Apparently the corporations opposing SOPA were the ones who originally distributed the piracy software.

Oops, hold on, going to do some twitter digging.

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which one was that

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In case I can't find it, I remember reading that the reason Super Meat Boy will never be released on the PS3 is because of some contract Team Meat signed with Microsoft.

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Wow. Apparently the corporations opposing SOPA were the ones who originally distributed the piracy software.

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Well, GoDaddy has hopped on the bandwagon and is supporting SOPA. Thanks to reddit, they're losing tens of thousands of domains daily as people switch out. On top of that, GoDaddy is easily one of the most infringing parties.

I wish I had website registered with GoDaddy just so I could switch to another company right now.

Anybody here who does should switch it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/com..._go_daddy_has/

I literally just bought domains and servers this month with them. Spent way to much money to just up and go. Oh well. :(

SWITCH NAO

He did actually just spend a lot there, against my better judgement (I recommended Dream Host).

Not just domains either, if it was just domains he could switch for free.

Guess it's time to drop my Go Daddy domain!

THEY AREN'T SUPPORTING IT ANYMORE!

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...t-for-sopa.ars

Doesn't change the fact that they're losing my business. In fact, I'd recommend that anyone who has switched away from Go Daddy remain so, as a warning to any company that would consider something like this in the future. Them changing their position after taking a loss only shows that profit is the most important factor for them, and not "to support security and stability of the internet". They had one shot at my business, and they blew it. Case closed.

Who pays for domains anyways?

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Doesn't change the fact that they're losing my business. In fact, I'd recommend that anyone who has switched away from Go Daddy remain so, as a warning to any company that would consider something like this in the future.

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Agreed.

Also, current top story on Reddit:

GoDaddy has NOT withdrawn its official congressional support for SOPA

I have no idea why anyone would choose GoDaddy to begin with.

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I have no idea why anyone would choose GoDaddy to begin with.

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Used it since 07, hard to break bad habits. :(

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I have no idea why anyone would choose GoDaddy to begin with.

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Used it since 07, hard to break bad habits. :(

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Pretty much that, though they're just my domain registrar. I wanted a dotcom back in 05-06 and godaddy was cheap.

I'd find a new registrar but I'm fucking lazy, plus I owe them like $40 due to a bounced check + the yearly registration fee. Hell, the domain's sitting in dead water since it's not tied to any web space and I haven't had the time to make a new site.

The equivalent of this censor, this shit is back.

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The Internet Kill Switch bill, officially called the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, gives the President the authority to police, censor and shut down parts of the Internet under a cyber emergency. While promoting the bill, Lieberman openly called for the U.S. to have the same ability to censor the Internet as China.

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Source.

Mindfuck.

why is this shit not on the news?

not even remotely surprised.

Fucking damnit.

I hate living here.

Time to buy some ammo.

I'm not even kidding.

Time to attack Washington D.C.

Oh, wait. they can arrest me now for just saying that.

Oh wow.
Someone is really determined to fuck you guys over.

I don't even see how Lieberman can believe he's justified in his bullshit policies.

:iamafag:

Oh yeah, Obama is a good president!

Because the PATRIOT Act didn't get this ball rolling.

Good thing I already got my gun.

I'm legit drafting a letter to my congressmen... actually women and I doubt they'll actually give enough of a fuck to do anything.

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Because the PATRIOT Act didn't get this ball rolling.

Good thing I already got my gun.

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Nope. He could of Veto'd it.

Looks like I should work on my hacking skillz now. :iamafag:

Not that his veto would actually account to much.
Congress could always veto his veto.

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Not that his veto would actually account to much.
Congress could always veto his veto.

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Sadly, although it rarely happens. He still could have tried to say the least, though I really doubt he gives a fuck enough about the U.S. citizens' well-being.

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Sadly, although it rarely happens. He still could have tried to say the least, though I really doubt he gives a fuck enough about the U.S. citizens' well-being.

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No, he just ordered Gitmo to be closed and tried introducing a standardized public healthcare service.
That's a hell of a lot more for the US citizen his predecessor did, GWB stripped you of alot of rights.

You know, there's a technical term to being unable to to see what's staring at you in the face and instead prefer what's invisible and likely none existent.
It's called being thick.

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Not that his veto would actually account to much.
Congress could always veto his veto.

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Pocket Veto.

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No, he just ordered Gitmo to be closed and tried introducing a standardized public healthcare service.
That's a hell of a lot more for the US citizen his predecessor did, GWB stripped you of alot of rights.

You know, there's a technical term to being unable to to see what's staring at you in the face and instead prefer what's invisible and likely none existent.
It's called being thick.

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Yeah, you should stop being thick.

1.) I understand Gitmo closing was good. I never said its closing was not.

2.) Just because countries outside the U.S. have free health care does not mean it will work for the U.S. Our government sucks at running anything (look at our fucking Congress, bureaucracy, and how shitty current social benefits are), it is COMPLETELY UNFEASIBLE GIVEN OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC STATE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO EVEN SUPPORT THIS BY 2014, and it fucks with every other non-governmental system (I know, I worked in an office that dealt with Medicaid and Medicare, both of which back everything up and cause a shitstorm of frustration for both the consumer and provider). On top of all of this, health care that the government would give us would do almost NOTHING to lower the prices of operations and whatnot people would go in for. Obamacare (or whatever the fuck you wanna call it) is a fraud.

3.) If your still stuck on GWB, then fucking get your head out of your ass. Talk about thick.

And Warsaw is right, although it is a lot more difficult to accomplish than originally intended.

PSST.

It won't work because people are too shit scared about something social turning communist.
We've already debated this.

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PSST.

It won't work because people are too shit scared about something social turning communist.
We've already debated this.

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No, it's not that, it's because it won't work. Too entirely different things. Our president worked with the bill because almost every liberal/Democratic in the country was exclaiming for it. Naturally, conservatives are against another expenditure as such (as it is a major leap in infrastructure changing), but the educated individuals here see that it won't work given the U.S.'s current circumstances regarding the economy and how much health care is corporate. Maybe one day in the future, but not now or within this decade.

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No, it's not that, it's because it won't work. Too entirely different things. Our president worked with the bill because almost every liberal/Democratic in the country was exclaiming for it. Naturally, conservatives are against another expenditure as such (as it is a major leap in infrastructure changing), but the educated individuals here see that it won't work given the U.S.'s current circumstances regarding the economy and how much health care is corporate. Maybe one day in the future, but not now or within this decade.

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In order for it to happen within a decade, you have to start working for it though. Thats what you're not understanding. These things don't just happen. Its not just a bill that gets passed and everything works out. There is work to be done. Steps to be taken. Its not magical.

Also I kept reading WarLord's posts in Sheldon Cooper's voice.
Amazing.

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In order for it to happen within a decade, you have to start working for it though. Thats what you're not understanding. These things don't just happen. Its not just a bill that gets passed and everything works out. There is work to be done. Steps to be taken. Its not magical.

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Not exactly sure how my posts hint that it "just happens." I even inferred that if it would work it would be after this decade.

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Not exactly sure how my posts hint that it "just happens." I even inferred that if it would work it would be after this decade.

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You want more jobs to help boost your economy?
You want better health care and not be proved in the colon by insurance companies?
You better get to work sooner rather than later.

If everyone went by the motto of "meh get it done next decade" nothing would ever be done.

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You want more jobs to help boost your economy?
You want better health care and not be proved in the colon by insurance companies?
You better get to work sooner rather than later.

If everyone went by the motto of "meh get it done next decade" nothing would ever be done.

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1.) Government jobs in the U.S. are shit. As they are now, they do jackshit for the economy. They pay jackshit (though I'm not to exclude them simply because it IS a job) and give you benefits of jackshit (seriously, we've covered how horrible our government's current benefits are). Basically, here is the problem with your statement there: just because it works in Europe and Canada, doesn't mean it works in the U.S. You can take my statements as what you want, but considering you aren't taking the time to research both sides then this entire post is more or less wasting internet. Now if you're proposing we turn the Bureaucracy into the right track and fix it up, then I completely agree. The bureaucracy is a load of shit as is. However, government jobs do nothing for the U.S. economy when you delve into it all. That's part of being an entirely capitalist society.

2.) You don't live in the U.S. and are going by the "industry-fucks-its-consumers" mentality that every ass-mad-ranting American blogger curses about. The proper health insurance companies (yes, they exist) and certain sectors of the medical industry (the private sector is good, seek it out) are perfectly fine and reliable. My family is in the private sector of medical and I've worked for the private sector of medical. You're not skull-fucked until you reach the corporate-sector, which in case you have every right to be pissed. However, if you're smart and obtain good health insurance (Aflac is a great start) by researching before you bitch about it all, then you'll realize "Obamacare" is unnecessary. There is only one exception to the "Our government sucks with running healthcare" sentiment I rant on about and that's the Federal inclusion of Blue Cross Blue Shield in certain jobs, such as Education, though I don't entirely know the specifics behind it all in terms of how much involvement the government has. Here's the link in Wikipedia for it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Cr...ld_Association

My dad is a college professor who is not on the tenure track, which is how I know a bit about Blue Cross Blue Shield as a medical insurance provider.

3.) This decade is not the appropriate time to setup nor attempt to operate ANOTHER social-benefit in the U.S. The economic is still in decay and our government is becoming more and more questionable. It needs massive reformation and an entire re-haul of the bureaucracy before tackling healthcare for everyone.

But enough about healthcare and Obama's inability to fulfill promises in a thread about SOPA. PM me if you want to continue this conversation.

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You want more jobs to help boost your economy?
You want better health care and not be proved in the colon by insurance companies?
You better get to work sooner rather than later.

If everyone went by the motto of "meh get it done next decade" nothing would ever be done.

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No comments on my Sheldon Cooper joke? :(

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No, it's not that, it's because it won't work. Too entirely different things. Our president worked with the bill because almost every liberal/Democratic in the country was exclaiming for it. Naturally, conservatives are against another expenditure as such (as it is a major leap in infrastructure changing), but the educated individuals here see that it won't work given the U.S.'s current circumstances regarding the economy and how much health care is corporate. Maybe one day in the future, but not now or within this decade.

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Actually "conservatives" (unsure whether to upper-case or lower-case that in this situation :p) are not against adding expenses. They are more against bringing the Government into something which can be privatized. Efficiency is still damned, as is evident in private healthcare as well as private prisons; they would rather Government just sends public money to be wasted in a hole rather than being the hole themselves.

The reason privatized shit gets screwed is because those privatized industries lobby to keep themselves small and stifle competition so they can charge high.

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The reason privatized shit gets screwed is because those privatized industries lobby to keep themselves small and stifle competition so they can charge high.

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Which touches on my point: Everyone -- including both Government and Private Sector -- want to screw you... so standing on one side or the other is meaningless.

"Don't vote for the Democrats, they want Government to waste money."
"Don't vote for the Republicans, they want Government to give money to people to waste."

How about you just force whatever politician is in power to just do their effin' job in the first place. Demand for them to do something positive... rather than sitting idly by and waiting until they do or try to do something egregiously negative and rallying against them. Of course do that too -- but not solely that.

Great way of putting it all Phopojijo!

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Which touches on my point: Everyone -- including both Government and Private Sector -- want to screw you... so standing on one side or the other is meaningless.

"Don't vote for the Democrats, they want Government to waste money."
"Don't vote for the Republicans, they want Government to give money to people to waste."

How about you just force whatever politician is in power to just do their effin' job in the first place. Demand for them to do something positive... rather than sitting idly by and waiting until they do or try to do something egregiously negative and rallying against them. Of course do that too -- but not solely that.

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I agree with you. I'm just pointing it out in case some people don't get that. I stand for my own personal benefit. Enlightened self-interest.

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No comments on my Sheldon Cooper joke? :(

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Of what I saw when I looked the name up.
No, No I am not like him at all.
for a start his voice is pretty damn high compared to mine, my voice has a bit of a rumble to it, you can ask pooky,Warsaw or Teek.

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Of what I saw when I looked the name up.
No, No I am not like him at all.
for a start his voice is pretty damn high compared to mine, my voice has a bit of a rumble to it, you can ask pooky,Warsaw or Teek.

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You should watch that show.

Its hilarious.

And no I didn't mean it as an insult, it was just the tone of the thread.

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But enough about healthcare and Obama's inability to fulfill promises in a thread about SOPA.

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Yeah and SOPA/PROTECTIP/whatever it is called now wouldn't be a problem if he had actually vetoed it like he threatened to.

Because the World Wide Web was created by the United States Military and we have all the rights in the world to control how everyone is able to use it.

Fuck that. Leave the Internets alone. :v:

I still am having issues comprehending how anyone can control the internet.

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I still am having issues comprehending how anyone can control the internet.

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Its impossible. They can try all they like, but the Internet will always be free.

Wrong. If ISPs just ban all IPs except those on the white list, they win. They can also monitor your access, and send police to any IP that attempts to access restricted material.

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Wrong. If ISPs just ban all IPs except those on the white list, they win. They can also monitor your access, and send police to any IP that attempts to access restricted material.

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Get a new internet?

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No comments on my Sheldon Cooper joke? :(

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I laughed

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Pocket Veto.

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By the way -- I'm Canadian so spare me for being "ignorant". Couldn't a "pocket veto" be signed by a later President? Or is it like Canada where after an election pending bills metaphorically die in a fire?

It dies. Congress would have to start it up again when they come back from vacation (!) and resubmit to the executive for signature.

Also, ignorance doesn't annoy me. People talking out of their ass while being obviously ignorant annoys me. Not trying to sound like I'm the one to decide, but you've been fine since you know the limits of your knowledge (which is actually quite good).

Yeah I was being slightly sacrastic there, lol.

The joke was that it was over a relatively small point that I'm willing to guess the vast majority of common Americans don't even know... along with just about everything else we've discussed thus far.

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Show is too good. WHERE IS EP 12 OF SEASON 5 DAMNIT.

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Yeah I was being slightly sacrastic there, lol.

The joke was that it was over a relatively small point that I'm willing to guess the vast majority of common Americans don't even know... along with just about everything else we've discussed thus far.

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Yeah. But the real problem isn't that they don't know, it's that they don't care to know.

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Yeah. But the real problem isn't that they don't know, it's that they don't care to know.

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Unfortunately, the Pocket Veto can ONLY be used on the brink of a Congressional "vacation" simply because it can easily backfire. If Congress does not disperse before the duration of the President's overlook of the bill expires, then that bill becomes law. It's a very tricky situation that happened from (please correct me if I'm wrong here) the Jackson era considering he used it very effectively (and a shit ton as well).