http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1
How about that imperialism huh? Way to go free Europe.
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1
How about that imperialism huh? Way to go free Europe.
Yeah... can't really see anything ending well in Ukraine.
Didn't America pledge to defend Ukraine if they disposed of their nuclear warheads? Do they still have them?
^Oh fuck, here we go. IRL Battlefield.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTCkuHc__ZQQuote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
No, they don't but under Obama's amazing leadership i bet the only thing he'll do is say "staaaahhhhp!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeph
seriously Dwood.
It's all about the Black sea, russia isn't going to give it up no matter what happens in ukraine. They just need to let that pennisula go, i think most the people there are pro russian anyway
I think it's fair for them to own the Crimea since they took the time a long time ago to transplant their people there. They are Russians and deserve to be part of their country if that' what they want to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodzilla
But I don't support Putin saying that the EU was wrong to support Ukraine joining their trade organization or a Russian invasion of Ukraine in any way. Let them partition like civilized human beings. You don't need to shove T-72s down their throats before their new government can even learn to walk.
It's russia we're talking about, since when have they ever played fair.
Putin doesn't give a fuck.
We shall see if that's all he wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodzilla
Putin would annex the world if you let him, but for sure he's not going to under any circumstances give up the black sea
Anyone hear anything about actual violence yet?
Not yet but apparently the new PM of Ukraine is essentially taking Russia's moves as a Decleration of War, so uhh, they got that going for them.
And then you have the leader of Crimea, an autonomous republic, asking Russia for help (not to mention Crimea is quite pro-Russia and is mostly composed of ethnic Russians). Ukraine is claiming that government (Crimea) is unconstitutional but... is it? It *is* an autonomous republic.
Semi-Autonomous IIRC
Crimea is not independent; this would be the equivalent of Texas appealing to Mexico for armed assistance because it's got gang wars making hell.
Wasn't Texas looking to split from the US?
Yeah, if you consider Texas as something capable of putting up a Change.org petition instead of the actual government buildings that decide fate for residents.Quote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
I don't think there's anyone here who thinks that the people of the Crimea don't have the right to decide what nation to be a part of. I just think it's wrong for the Russians to send in thousands of soldiers to ensure that happens. If Britain had sent in thousands of troops to the Confederate south during the American Civil War to "protect their interests their", that would have been the closest thing to what we're talking about here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phopojijo
Or if France sent in troops to Quebec.
lawl.
Actually, that's not similar at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
A much better example is Georgia v. Russia and South Ossetia.
Yeah, I agree on that one except for the Georgians actually firing shots and waging war on the Ossetians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phopojijo
