Originally Posted by
Dwood
Socialism allows those who do no work never to feel the pang of not doing the work, and it makes it harder for those who DO do the work to actually succeed.
Sounds like you're talking about welfare. Welfare exists in my partially Socialist nation of Canada, as well as your Capitalist nation of America. And frankly, it's just the proper thing to do. You want to see stuff get hard for "people who do the work to succeed"? Take it away. Then watch the increase in violent crimes and robberies infest your neighbourhood, because they have no other option.
It doesn't give people the chance to succeed any more than regular capitalism. In fact, if you look at Canada and Britain (Socialist) to America (Capitalist) you will see that America has more people have succeeded than anywhere else in the world. It's just simple facts.
Of course you have more success stories, you have more people. Hell, the State of California has more people in it than the entire country of Canada. And what does that even mean, "has more people that have succeeded"? What census gets handed out asking "have you succeeded?"
A motivated person is going to succeed no matter what. It's all in the mindset of the person.
That's not true. That's impossible.
Oh, and I can't convince you about Socialism unless I can convince you that Human Nature is such that we are lazy at heart. You can't convince ICEE that Socialism is best unless you can convince him that people won't take advantage of being able to be lazy.
Yeah, people will take advantage of it. But you shouldn't be angry at Socialism. It isn't Socialism's fault. Socialism can be implemented properly, given the right way of doing it, such as with healthcare and education, as well as with government aid money, though even I admit, that system needs to be reformed to limit abuse.
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