Afghan war maybe not Iraqi though.Originally Posted by SnaFuBAR
Afghan war maybe not Iraqi though.
It doesn't matter if Bin Laden is in Afghanistan. We went to war there, we helped them form their own government, we need to do our part to ensure the government can survive until it's independent. If we let it go to rot, then what was the point if it's going to end up like before or worse?
What does it matter about Iraq? It was a mistake, but I fail to see what your implying it has to do with the war in Afghanistan.
Just because Bush is being used as a scapegoat, doesn't mean he's not at fault for some things which happened. Things may not be up to Bush, but he's a major factor into what does happen and what is sent to Congress. His administration fucked up. You can't shove it under the rug, you have to set things right again.
while i agree with you Masterz
about the Afghanistan thing
there's not much we can do to help if they don't want us there
That's exactly what people said (myself included) about Iraq, which has been undeniably been getting better. I absolutely hate that we're involved in two wars at once, but especially since we've managed to prevent Iraq from shitting on itself and dying I think we have a responsibility to see things through. Also, I'm pretty sure that unlike in Iraq, people don't want us to leave so much.
Last edited by teh lag; February 18th, 2009 at 06:57 PM.
It's a shock to the system. Imagine if some other country came over to where you lived quite contently and started a coup? Of course you would be against it. But then after the dust settles, everything is better for nearly everyone? Then how would you feel?
Yeah, but we got much better results out of negotiating with the tribal and militia leaders than we did with just deploying more troops. Considering our military likes to brag about how it can hit insects from orbit or whatever, I think it ought to be understood that we could achieve similar effects with a much smaller ground presence.
Not to mention the lack of sustainability and gruesome ethics of the whole venture.
he never ever concealed his intentions of going into Afghanistan mate.
ever.
he still wants out of Iraq, and now where at least not going into IRAN...
he's not as bad as ya think, ideally we shouldnt be in afghanistan either but it's better then having fucking 3 wars at the same time.
you didnt tell us shit, because we already fucking knew it.
Sadam wouldn't negotiate, nor would the Taliban when we tried.
Also polar, it's not fair to ask how we would feel if another nation invaded our country and told us how to govern ourselves. Our government doesn't encourage people to throw acid in the faces of little girls, or stone and hang women in public. If I lived in that country, I would welcome American forces.
Afghanistan is actually worth it, and truth be told I'd rather be sent there than Iraq. At least we know (for the most part) who we're fighting, the Taliban and their lot; that and we have a legit reason for still being there. Iraq should be able to look after itself without the US and its allies hanging around like a bad smell, but Afghanistan is still vulnerable.
e/ just thought I'd remind everyone that Afghanistan has sweet bugger all by way of oil, so it's not like that played any part whatsoever in that war
e2/ the Afghans did want us there, so I dunno where you got that idea from, Huero. The only ones they were apprehensive about were the Brits, understandably (colonial wars and all that), but once they realised they were there to help they got over it.
If anyone's in the market for a good read on what the place was like when they first went in, check out Bloody Heroes by Damien Lewis. Really puts things in perspective.
Last edited by rossmum; February 18th, 2009 at 08:08 PM.
culture's different
that's normal to them
the only reason they would care is outer exposure anyway, if they were exposed to something such as the american culture
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