So I heard Obama is now "One of the boys" :awesome:

[Huero]

while i agree with you Masterz
about the Afghanistan thing
there's not much we can do to help if they don't want us there

[teh lag]

while i agree with you Masterz
about the Afghanistan thing
there's not much we can do to help if they don't want us there

That's exactly what people said (myself included) about Iraq, which has been undeniably been getting better. I absolutely hate that we're involved in two wars at once, but especially since we've managed to prevent Iraq from shitting on itself and dying I think we have a responsibility to see things through. Also, I'm pretty sure that unlike in Iraq, people don't want us to leave so much.

[p0lar_bear]

That's exactly what people said (myself included) about Iraq, which has been undeniably been getting better. I absolutely hate that we're involved in two wars at once, but especially since we've managed to prevent Iraq from shitting on itself and dying I think we have a responsibility to see things through. Also, I'm pretty sure that unlike in Iraq, people don't want us to leave so much.

It's a shock to the system. Imagine if some other country came over to where you lived quite contently and started a coup? Of course you would be against it. But then after the dust settles, everything is better for nearly everyone? Then how would you feel?

[Mass]

That's exactly what people said (myself included) about Iraq, which has been undeniably been getting better. I absolutely hate that we're involved in two wars at once, but especially since we've managed to prevent Iraq from shitting on itself and dying I think we have a responsibility to see things through. Also, I'm pretty sure that unlike in Iraq, people don't want us to leave so much.

Yeah, but we got much better results out of negotiating with the tribal and militia leaders than we did with just deploying more troops. Considering our military likes to brag about how it can hit insects from orbit or whatever, I think it ought to be understood that we could achieve similar effects with a much smaller ground presence.

Not to mention the lack of sustainability and gruesome ethics of the whole venture.