What about the brute? But ok, it was 2 am in the morning I tend to rush on those, if I take my time even without lines I can do definition fine:

But I usually don't have the time to do things this well, also the reason I do stuff in this form is because I CAN work fine with set outlines and penciling, and because of that I want to expand and get out of my comfort zone. It produces worse work, but it helps me improve: