North Korea has a successful nuclear test (North Korea's Nuclear Weapons)

[Good_Apollo]

You speak English and your country was directly involved, if I understand what he's trying to infer...

But yeah, I'm a little lost...

[SnaFuBAR]

US: Used atomic warfare to end conflict over the entire pacific and save millions of lives, though we did it with great remorse. Please note the atomic bombs we used were fairly small scale and did less damage than the firebombings. The use of the atomic weapons on the Japanese mainland BROKE THEIR IDEA OF TOTAL INVINCIBILITY AND STOPPED THEIR CONQUEST OF THE PACIFIC AND CHINESE TERRITORIES. The US, as a result of the cold war, went on to do SALT I and SALT II treaties.

NK: Threatens the use of nukes to initiate warfare and uses them as a threat. Nukes are their intended first resort.

figure it out. who's more dangerous.

[Good_Apollo]

Not to mention the numerous warnings we gave to the Japanese Generals and they refused to surrender, no matter the cost. They initiated the war and caused millions of lost lives, we did what we thought was right to end the conflict swiftly and save more lives. It was, by all means, a last resort.

Despite having one of the largest stockpiles we've never used one since or even threatened to use one to gain leverage against other countries. Plus what Snaf said, we've initiated tons of programs to cease production and cut current stockpiles.

The differences are huge.

[DarkHalo003]

North Korea psycho? America was the only country to ever use them in war. Nice one calling them psycho...

Get an objective view about this and not the suggested subjective view you learn about communists countries from the media and/or class.

North Korea is ruled by a dictator who brainwashes his civilians into thinking he is a god, threatens the world with nuclear warfare to gain supplies, and is one of the most unsafe regions on the entire planet due to their "policies." It's safe to say that the leader is nearly psychotic and that the country's motives aren't beneficial nor in any ways benevolent. Please do some research before saying something so misguided. The U.S. didn't want to use the nuclear warheads in WW2 against the Japanese, but had to due to the need of ending the war fast and to save many more lives, both U.S. and Japanese.

[Warsaw]

Hello I live in Canada and we were educated about "D-Day" in school.

And Canada was invaluable during that invasion, too. Without you guys, it probably wouldn't have been a success.

As for nuking Japan, well...everything's been said. Crash, learn the meaning of "objective viewpoint" and research the two sides before making such a rash statement. From a purely technological standpoint, yes, the US is indeed a bigger threat. Add the ideological and political standpoints, and I'd definitely say North Korea is worse.

[Cortexian]

And Canada was invaluable during that invasion, too. Without you guys, it probably wouldn't have been a success.

I know, I'm just saying, all the Allied states are made aware of the "D-Day" meaning... It's taught in lots of British schools as well so I don't know what CrashOverride is on about.

[SnaFuBAR]

He just takes every opportunity he can to say something about how crazy Americans are and how much depravity they unleash upon the world. It's all rhetoric coming from him and it's sad that he doesn't understand what an ignorant jackass he always looks like in regards to his America-rants.

Don't you live in Germany? Think about that for a second.

[English Mobster]

I talked about this today with my friend, a German exchange student from a hard-to-spell town a little bit east of Berlin (it has an umlaut or five in it, I can tell you that much).

He told me that his school taught him all about D-Day, as well as every other little detail of World War II to keep it from happening again, from the invasion of Poland to the Battle of the Bulge.

I don't know if you're full of shit, Crash, or you didn't pay attention in history, or if your school just didn't teach you about it, but it's definitely something local to you, because you seem to be the only European I've talked to who says that you weren't taught about D-day.

[Spartan094]

NK: Threatens the use of nukes to initiate warfare and uses them as a threat. Nukes are their intended first resort..

North Korea is a bunch of pussies for using Nukes for a first attack, shows how bad they are and can't fight with real guns (oh wait thats right, what kind of military do they have?)

He told me that his school taught him all about D-Day, as well as every other little detail of World War II to keep it from happening again, from the invasion of Poland to the Battle of the Bulge.

Thou this has nothing to do with the topic but isn't Battle of the Bulge (except on my great grandpa's veteran metal its spelled Battle of Bulge), wasn't it like the the bloodiest battle the americans faced during ww2?

[CrAsHOvErRide]

Don't you live in Germany? Think about that for a second.

Half-German. Living in America for 4 years and 15 years in Germany. For my appearance, the Nazis would have probably killed me as well. Talk about making a biased decision, because I have one.

North Korea is ruled by a dictator who brainwashes his civilians into thinking he is a god, threatens the world with nuclear warfare to gain supplies, and is one of the most unsafe regions on the entire planet due to their "policies." It's safe to say that the leader is nearly psychotic and that the country's motives aren't beneficial nor in any ways benevolent. Please do some research before saying something so misguided. The U.S. didn't want to use the nuclear warheads in WW2 against the Japanese, but had to due to the need of ending the war fast and to save many more lives, both U.S. and Japanese.

It's taught in lots of British schools as well so I don't know what CrashOverride is on about.

I am more or less aiming at the posts like the one I quoted above yours.

Who THE FUCK cares what ideology or what leader is living in country XYZ. Only important is the OUTCOME. Most of you seem so infiltrated with propaganda that you cannot even make a biased decision.

You call the Kim Jong Il a psychopath? Just look at the America government and its past leaders. To me Bush is much more of a psychopath than Jong Il because he ACTUALLY WENT INTO WAR. UNLIKE Jong Il who just talks all day long. Yes he is a psychopath but he did NOTHING in comparison to the USA.

America has many more nuclear warheads than North Korea. America is in war, North Korea is barely harming anybody compared to the US. They are torturing people? Just look at Guantanamo. He wants to make his country believe he is god? Just look at America and their so called separation of church and state.

You see from an EXTERNAL point of view the US is a much bigger threat than North Korea or at least not ANY better.

The U.S. didn't want to use the nuclear warheads in WW2 against the Japanese, but had to due to the need of ending the war fast and to save many more lives, both U.S. and Japanese.

Yeah that quote sums everything I said perfectly up. Let's kill some more terroristst in the middle east to save more lives.

I'm going to end this. It's stupid to argue on an all American, war loving forum. Trust me, I am not alone with my "Anti-American" attitude as you call it.