Wikileaks Collateral Murder Video

[Good_Apollo]

good post.

back on topic now,


Ok i'll ask you guys a question.
what is the best way to fix a problem?
analyse the cause's and reassess the systems in place behind it...... or sweep it under the rug?

This was a monumental fuck-up that led to the death of civilians, i think we can all agree on this, however as history has shown us if we choose not to acknowledge the mistakes and actions of our past we doom ourselves to repeat them.
You get the world believing that the holocaust never happened, and it will happen again. Simple as that.

The only way to Fix this problem is to do the opposite of what the military did and considering the amount of guns and money these guys have at their disposal, thats a very scary thought.

There's a difference between assessing a situation and calling for improvement and what we actually have (addressed in video comments, this site even) which is nothing more than a lynch mob calling for these guys to be tried as war criminals. There's a big difference.

Right, because it's not ridiculous to kill another fucking human being.

Read the Geneva Conventions.

If I was shooting an enemy combatant, whether they fight under the GC or not, then disengage firing thinking I had terminated them only to later see them struggling to move (read: they're still alive) it would be illegal for me to firing or attack them from then on. We'd be require to give medical aid.

This is why they tell you to Shoot To Kill.

I hate to be associated with this kind of scum. Begging to engage some targets which you're viewing from a very low resolution camera. Saying "their own fault for bringing their children to a battle". Mother fucker, that wasn't a battle, it was a massacre. There was no enemy fire, only your own.

Hell, their attire didn't even look to be that of typical insurgents.

Had that van held a Red Cross (or culture equivalent) symbol...I have to wonder if this fucking prick gunner would still have been begging to engage. Because then we'd know that he was knowingly begging to be a war criminal.

I was going to post and say I agreed with you about the 'shoot to kill' bit but the bolded just made me grimace in disbelief.

I remember from some training event that (I forget where exactly, I think in something like that of GC, but GC itself doesn't govern weapons. Or it could just be under UCMJ) it's illegal to use more force than needed to take out a target. IE, you wouldn't drop a bomb on a single enemy combatant.

No, however you would use every advantage you have when even a single man is a threat to you and your squad. This wasn't quite analogous to dropping a nuke on a few people.