Valid: each conclusion logically follows from the premises.
Sound: the premises are true.
What Socrates was good at was making premises that sound true but aren't necessarily so. The same is true of the above argument. The premises are not true. It's valid, but not sound. Taxation is not violence. That's the most irritatingly antagonistic and obtuse statement I've heard all week.
Last word I'm gonna put in on the subject, at the risk of derailing the thread: taking a viewpoint to one extreme or another tends to be a bad thing. Not that I'm for raising taxes, but our society could not function as we know it without them, and calling taxes a form of violent oppression is just exactly the same kind of extremist fear-mongering that Glenn Beck is so good at.
Now: Keep the fucking political discussions out of qfr, kthx.
Finally a quote from me not involving furries (except for the fact that I'm talking to jcap):
[21:45] jcap: wow, nice CSS job
...
[21:48] jcap: my god what the fuck
[21:48] jcap: why DO YOU DO THIS TO ME
[21:48] p0lar_bear: ?
[21:48] jcap: padding: {vb:math {vb:math 72 - {vb:math 2 * {vb:math {vb:stylevar small_fontSize} * {vb:stylevar line_height}}}} / 2} {vb:math {vb:stylevar padding} / 2}; /* (height of thumbnail - 2x line height) / 2 */
[21:48] p0lar_bear: hahahahahah
[21:48] p0lar_bear: read the comment
[21:48] p0lar_bear: that's the logic behind the math
[21:48] jcap: why :|
...boring serious-face explanation...
[21:54] jcap: I will rape your eye socket
[21:54] p0lar_bear: just leave the confusing math shit to me ok
[21:54] p0lar_bear: i have no issue reading that
[21:55] p0lar_bear: u just mad that i took the time to learn vbullshit's confusing crap instead of petitioning a ban on VB4
[21:55] p0lar_bear: umadbro?
[21:55] p0lar_bear: umadbro
[21:56] jcap: so mad
but its not funny, and validating everything that isnt funny as "random" is kind of bullshit. so yeah, more funny:
we were discussing morrowind
[00:38] Moses.☢☣☠: u ever wonder why the guilds dont assist the guards whenever they're getting their asses handed to them by your level 30 over powered 1 hit kill bastard of a sword?
[00:38] =☭= Señor Buñuelo: yeah
[00:38] Moses.☢☣☠: it's funny
[00:38] Moses.☢☣☠: i mean
[00:38] Moses.☢☣☠: i kinda understand the mages guild
[00:38] Moses.☢☣☠: but fuck
[00:39] Moses.☢☣☠: the FIGHTERS guild?
[00:39] =☭= Señor Buñuelo: lol theyre wusses
[00:39] Moses.☢☣☠: oh hey, look out the window. that guy's got a huge bounty on his head for killing vivec and taking his "unique dwemer artifect"
[00:39] Moses.☢☣☠: shouldnt we go after him?
[00:39] Moses.☢☣☠: yea we should
[00:39] Moses.☢☣☠: WELL THEN LETS GO
[00:40] Moses.☢☣☠: i dont know how to go out of this worldspace
[00:40] Moses.☢☣☠: D:
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