Airsoft Thread

[Warsaw]

It takes STANAG magazines. That means any STANAG-compatible 5.56 magazine will work in the gun, and not all of them are bent like that. There is actually no reason for a 5.56 magazine to bend, because it's not rimmed and the cartridge is not tapered.

[Cortexian]

Feeds better that way according to everything I've read on the subject. Magpul had an article on it somewhere, but now I don't remember where I found it...

I don't mind the stock, but I wonder what an M4 stock would look like on that.

It basically does have the M4 stock on it, at least the collapsing style:


I like the full stock better:


If you're talking about AR-15 style stocks, those might make it look better but there's no reason for that weapon system to use a buffer tube. The tube extension on that would have to be purely cosmetic.

[Amit]

If you're talking about AR-15 style stocks, those might make it look better but there's no reason for that weapon system to use a buffer tube. The tube extension on that would have to be purely cosmetic.

Yeah, meant the M4A1.

[Warsaw]

Personally, I like traditional grips over pistol grips on my shotguns. Feels more "right."

[Cortexian]

I hate traditional grips, on all guns. Harder to control and less comfortable.

[Warsaw]

Those are both debatable.

[Cortexian]

Less comfortable maybe, pistol grip is always easier to control though.

[Warsaw]

Again, still debatable. It depends on how the recoil is directed through the gun. The higher up the chamber and barrel, the crappier the recoil control. Thompson has a pistol grip and it's a bitch to control compared to a UMP 45. Pistol grip has absolutely nothing to do with it. The only grip that actually adds more control is a fore-grip versus no fore-grip. That's why I hold ARs and even my Enfield by the magazine.

[Cortexian]

By the mag-well*

Holding the magazine causes bad things to happen, this from personal experience on a few different magazine fed weapons including M14's and AR-15's.

Also, a pistol grip gives you more control over the entire weapons stability. Imagine holding a tube, it can rotate around in your grip a bit. This is similar to what can happen on traditional style stocks/grips, the rifle has more freedom of movement to rotate. With a pistol grip, that's almost impossible. Add to the fact that holding a traditional rifle grip in the firing position for a long time puts strain on the wrist, a pistol grip also fixes this problem.

Obviously if your gun is rotating around in your grip you're doing something incredibly wrong, but a pistol grip does offer a more stable firearm platform.

[Warsaw]

Most guns have no grip-able magazine well, so I just said magazine.

A traditional grip is also not a tube. Most come down at a steep enough angle to prevent that. In addition, the way you have to hold the gun in place with the other hand completely prevents it from rotating around; you have to be completely ignorant on firearms to screw this up. The only real differentiator between the two is that you have to deal with the stock coming off of the end. Your thumb still wraps around, holding it in place. In fact, it's actually easier to rotate with a pistol grip because now you have a clear-cut lever to act upon.

Also, shotguns have a high barrel. Pistol grip + shotgun = serious tendency for muzzle climb. A traditional grip puts the shotguns into a more in-line layout, making it easier to control.