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    Re: Modacity shooters' thread

    Most available 5.56 ammo is 55 grain or M193. Also lots of SP ammo rolling around in the US.
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    Re: Modacity shooters' thread

    Trust me, being hit by the Mosin would be far, far, far worse.
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    So would taking an arrow to the knee.
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    there is no amount of facepalm.

    Also yeah 5.56 can be pretty fucking deadly given that upon contact all of its energy is then transferred from the round into your organs as well as shrapnel. Where as most rounds that do a through and through can sometimes do less damage since the energy is transferred directly through and can do minimal damage to the body. The 7.62x54r doesn't usually do a clean through and through shot. The bullet itself for one is massive, usually weighing around 148gr to 160gr (5.56 is usually 55gr or 62gr), the cartridge as a whole is huge. And when it hits it blows shit apart, especially people.
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    Re: Modacity shooters' thread

    Quote Originally Posted by PenGuin1362 View Post
    there is no amount of facepalm.

    Also yeah 5.56 can be pretty fucking deadly given that upon contact all of its energy is then transferred from the round into your organs as well as shrapnel. Where as most rounds that do a through and through can sometimes do less damage since the energy is transferred directly through and can do minimal damage to the body. The 7.62x54r doesn't usually do a clean through and through shot. The bullet itself for one is massive, usually weighing around 148gr to 160gr (5.56 is usually 55gr or 62gr), the cartridge as a whole is huge. And when it hits it blows shit apart, especially people.
    30-06 is superior. Deer bullets would fuck people's shit up.
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    They're both pretty terrifying. Actually, any standard issue rifle round from WW2 is fucking nasty. 7.92x57, the shit is that?! With some bullet weights being over 200gr
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    Re: Modacity shooters' thread

    Commercial ammo for the 7.62x54r can have 180gr and 200gr bullets, never seen anything higher. Also have you ever seen a 7.62x54r FMJ round wreck a deer or any other animal? It fucks their shit up. I have seen HP 7.62x54r, made me think how cruel it would be to shoot something with it.

    On another note I want one of those American Mosin Nagants from Remington or New England Westinghouse (NEW) in a good condition but that will be a tough one to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVTyrant View Post
    30-06 is superior. Deer bullets would fuck people's shit up.
    Remember the difference between the 7.62x54r and 30-06? It's easy to point out why it is superior, another reason why Bannerman took Remington and NEW rifles and did conversions on them to accept 30-06 back in the 1920's I think it was then.
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    Re: Modacity shooters' thread

    I'm saying that the ammo designed to shoot animals does more damage than FMJ. Always.

    Always does. There is literally no argument against that.
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    Re: Modacity shooters' thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartan094 View Post
    On another note I want one of those American Mosin Nagants from Remington or New England Westinghouse (NEW) in a good condition but that will be a tough one to find.
    I know where to find a 1915 Westinghouse
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    Re: Modacity shooters' thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TVTyrant View Post
    I'm saying that the ammo designed to shoot animals does more damage than FMJ. Always.

    Always does. There is literally no argument against that.
    Anything with a soft- or hollow-point will. That's the point (lol). Bigger bullet diameter = more energy transfer. It also usually means a worse ballistic coefficient (mitigated by increasing length+changing the overall shape). A soft or hollow point allows you to increase diameter without actually increasing the diameter, therefore preserving the round's coefficient for the most part.
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