Modacity shooters' thread

[rossmum]

Never seen a 91 run 1 MOA with any ammo.

Seen plenty of M1A run .5 with a good scope and brand new Federal FMJ (not crappy NATO spec, talking fancy here).

91/30 sniper. A regular 91/30 that runs under 2.5 is an unlikely find.

The acceptance standard for 91/30 snipers was ~1.2MOA and many of them will shoot MOA with the right surplus (varies from rifle to rifle). They will shoot under if they're in really good condition, being fired by someone who knows what they're doing (or on a lead sled), and are being fed some really nice handloads.

[TVTyrant]

91/30 sniper. A regular 91/30 that runs under 2.5 is an unlikely find.

The acceptance standard for 91/30 snipers was ~1.2MOA and many of them will shoot MOA with the right surplus (varies from rifle to rifle). They will shoot under if they're in really good condition, being fired by someone who knows what they're doing (or on a lead sled), and are being fed some really nice handloads.

fair enough, since Springfields/Mausers/Enfields were held to that standard or similar as well.

[Spartan094]

My first regular infantry 91/30 preforms fine with surplus ammo, now give it commercial ammo and it performs absolutely good, it loves .308 diameter bullets since I gave it Winchester FMJ (note they use .308 diameter bullets and is seated differently in the casing compared to surplus) and it ran through all of it perfectly and hit dead center at any target I gave it. Acutely my 91/30 when it comes to surplus seems to love Czech silver tip surplus, shoots every target dead on and shoots minute of fascist just fine.

But one of these days I'll pick up and have a Springfield/Mauser K98k/Enfield.

Oh yeah I tried to get a East German AK furniture set off gunboards, just slow to the draw so I lost that. Right now I'm trying to get a East German AK/SKS gray sling, yes I don't have an AK varient right now, so it's going to be used on my airsoft AK47 for the time being.

[rossmum]

91/30s are really luck of the draw. Infantry rifles range from almost sniper quality through to 4+ MOA during the height of "OH FUCK, NAZIS" panic production, with the only real consistency coming from the snipers.

Regardless, though, they are damn near impossible to break and are handy weapons. Haters can fuck right off.



...The modern VDV agrees.

[TVTyrant]

Just confirmed I'm a terrible shot with a scope the other day

Three rounds on irons, all in a nice clover from my .30-06 at 70 yards

After sighting in for on at 70 (adjusted the elevation later), shot a two inch fucking group

Barrel was cool at the start of each group

My buddy shot a 1 inch with it

Fuck do I hate scopes

[TVTyrant]

91/30s are really luck of the draw. Infantry rifles range from almost sniper quality through to 4+ MOA during the height of "OH FUCK, NAZIS" panic production, with the only real consistency coming from the snipers.

Regardless, though, they are damn near impossible to break and are handy weapons. Haters can fuck right off.

...The modern VDV agrees.

Only thing is those fuckers are looonnnnnngggggg. M44s are fucking awesome though. I'd pay the price to have a snubby carbine that shoots powerful ammo.

[Spartan094]

Yes they are luck of the draw, my first one came from a pawn shop and I had no idea what to look for in one and my grandfather got it for me, so I'm glad when I finally became more experienced about MN's by doing a lot of research, it shot just fine....though it HATES Russian surplus.

Also they only break if you intentionally try to break it.

Fake E: Since Tyrant is speaking about M44's and I took some new photo's yesterday

[Spartan094]

I decided to buy a crate of these, these are surplus from the late 40's so this will be interesting.

Russian 7.62x54R on Mosin Chargers, so I got 600 rounds so I guess I'm set for quite sometime

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.as...+can&groupid=6

[rossmum]

Keep a couple of the rounds if they're that old. Could you get a better photo of the markings on the case lid? Those are type L light ball rounds, same as used in WWII and a little different to the later, more commonly found type LPS.

Also, it never ceases to amaze me how incredibly stupid old shooters can get. This one fucktard on YT has been insisting that Mosins are crap, everything made in Russia is crap, America makes the best guns in the world and he could outshoot a Mosin any day of the week. Yes you fucking retard, your $5,000 space Mauser of which the only actual Mauser part is the receiver sure will outshoot an $800 Second World War sniper rifle and $100 infantry rifle, because they are not specifically designed as target rifles holy hell you stupid fuck. He's supposedly a hunting guide and gunsmith though so he thinks he knows fucking everything.

He's in Oregon so if you ever see him Tyrant, please punch him in his big stupid fucking mouth please.

[Spartan094]

Sure I'll take a bunch of photo's and put some up here when my shipment comes to me. Shipping can be a killer and sometimes I hate waiting haha. And I do keep any 7.62x54r rounds that I don't have and line them up in my bullet collection. I'll keep probably one of those 15 round packages and use the rest, depends.

Also Oregon? I think TVTryant could do that for you.