The Xbone

[PenGuin1362]

You know, it's almost like they're marketing this console towards the (massive) fifa/maden/cod/sports watching crowd...It's almost like they know exactly what they're doing...

[Kornman00]

Plague, I believe it was shown that it didn't matter which controller you had, it knew who you were regardless.

Chicken and egg, man. Would people do all of that with a console if they could? Probably. It's just not convenient to do so, so they don't.

At which point it wouldn't be a console, nor cost the same as one. It would just be another freak in the freak kingdom. I mean PC.

You know, it's almost like they're marketing this console towards the (massive) fifa/maden/cod/sports watching crowd...It's almost like they know exactly what they're doing...

[Warsaw]

It's headed there. Consoles and PCs are going to hit a convergence point and that's when we'll see whether open computing will defeat closed computing...again.

[Zeph]

It's headed there. Consoles and PCs are going to hit a convergence point and that's when we'll see whether open computing will defeat closed computing...again.

If hardware was as CPU-reliant as it was nearly ten years ago you'd be correct. These consoles moved too far into the PC domain. The PS4 is going exactly wherever the GTX 670 will go while the xbone will die out with the GTX5 580 (this is very generous). To keep up, you've got to move consoles back to a 5-6 year refresh rate maximum. Anyone here still game with an 8800GTX? That came out six years ago. We've gone from .35 teraFLOPs to 3.9 teraFLOPs in just those six years. How well do you think a GTX 780 will compare to a 42 teraFLOPs card? Definitely twice as well as the PS4 and thrice as well as the xbone .

[Pooky]

I just don't know how you could possible improve on the controller though, since I felt (literally) that the 360 one was perfect.

Have you seen the D-Pad on it?

[PenGuin1362]

I'm not a fan of sequels D:

[Amit]

[TeeKup]

BAH HA HA HA HA.

[Warsaw]

If hardware was as CPU-reliant as it was nearly ten years ago you'd be correct. These consoles moved too far into the PC domain. The PS4 is going exactly wherever the GTX 670 will go while the xbone will die out with the GTX5 580 (this is very generous). To keep up, you've got to move consoles back to a 5-6 year refresh rate maximum. Anyone here still game with an 8800GTX? That came out six years ago. We've gone from .35 teraFLOPs to 3.9 teraFLOPs in just those six years. How well do you think a GTX 780 will compare to a 42 teraFLOPs card? Definitely twice as well as the PS4 and thrice as well as the xbone .

It's not actually the hardware alone that will determine this, it's market perception. If the Xbox gets big and sells enough as a general computing name, we might see the consumer PC as we know it shift from open box to closed box, and I think that's exactly what Microsoft wants. Remember that, outside of gaming, your computational horsepower really doesn't matter all that much to the general consumer. There's always that paradigm-changing "good enough" level, a level which the PC reached almost ten years ago. That means consoles have already passed that, it's just that the software is evolving to leverage it.

[Phopojijo]

Actually I expect the web browser will ultimately become the operating system. It really will not matter what the underlying system is because everything will ultimately rely upon Web Standards which any browser can run. If a browser can't run it, then that browser will bleed market share.

At that point, the only thing to worry about is how much power is behind it.

And before you say it, you can do a crazy amount of stuff in a web browser and it is only getting better.

Large applications are being compiled into Javascript with nearing-C++ performance
... even some applications you wouldn't expect to be possible in Web Standards

... and I haven't even talked about WebCL yet.