The Official CMT SPv2 Promotion Items Thread (new pics as of 8-25-07)

[Masterz1337]

Leading up to release of SPV2 this month, we will be releasing lots of pictures, and several videos up to the release. Be sure to check this thread regularly for the latest pics and videos


5-7-07


http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-04-16%2016-06-30-10.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-07%2019-19-32-84.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-07%2019-19-55-79.jpg


5-8-07


http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2august/haloce%201%202007-08-20%2011-42-56-69.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2august/haloce%201%202007-08-20%2011-42-56-69.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2august/haloce%201%202007-08-20%2011-42-39-46.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-08%2020-17-42-82.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-08%2020-19-01-63.jpg


5-9-07


http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-04-15%2017-45-57-05.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-09%2020-14-28-26.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-09%2020-15-38-26.jpg[/center]



5-18-07

http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/videos/CMTteaser.wmv
T&R Promo Teaser by Sonic
NOTE: The Beta build of the level is 2-3 weeks old. many of the bugs and unfinished things (such as the brute) have been vastly improved on and fixed.[/center]


5-21-07

http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-12%2011-54-26-85.jpg
http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-12%2001-17-34-13.jpg
both old pics.[/center]


5-31-07

http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-31%2022-55-59-26.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-31%2022-56-14-77.jpg



6-4-07

http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2june/haloce%201%202007-06-04%2021-22-18-89.jpg
http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2june/haloce%201%202007-06-04%2021-20-50-57.jpg

The brute grenade explosion looks alot better when you see it all in motion.[/center]



6-9-07

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7493/haloce12007060823140567ar2.jpg
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/3584/haloce12007060823182298lb5.jpg




6-15-07

http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2june/haloce%201%202007-06-14%2017-08-13-62.jpg




7-22-07 kindof

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2034/ma5cingamegb7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This pic was taken in the unreleased CMT MP level Delta Ruins, which I have been using as a personal test map. It is not part of SP2. Disregard the beta build watermark, it means nothing in the context of this picture.




7-23-07

http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2july/haloce%202007-07-23%2009-40-54-66.bmp (http://imageshack.us)
http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2july/haloce%202007-07-23%2009-42-36-03.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2july/haloce%202007-07-23%2009-42-19-34.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2july/haloce%202007-07-23%2009-55-17-96.bmp (http://imageshack.us)



7-29-07

Video Clip http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/videos/cmta10clip.wmv
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6271/ohhohohogg4.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3429/sidearjt7.jpg


8-20-07

http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2august/haloce%201%202007-08-20%2011-42-39-46.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2august/haloce%201%202007-08-20%2011-42-56-69.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2august/haloce%201%202007-08-20%2011-43-07-18.jpg


8-25-07
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2august/haloce%201%202007-08-24%2019-00-39-74.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2august/haloce%201%202007-08-21%2017-00-18-81.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2august/haloce%201%202007-08-21%2017-00-00-45.jpg
http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2august/haloce%201%202007-08-21%2014-35-10-70.jpg

[m13120]

Sounds good, looks awesome so far.

Except that tiling in that last pic kinda bothers me :\

[Hurrvish]

is it possible for you to change the shield particles/effects?

[Dole]

Except that tiling in that last pic kinda bothers me :\
Is it the tiling, or the lack of anti-aliasing? The latter is an unavoidable problem in CE.

[ThatCrazyFox]

In response to those bridge textures:

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6233/omfg779425of8.jpg

[Pred1ator]

lawl win...the pelican looks dull btw

[Xegrot]

Is it the tiling, or the lack of anti-aliasing? The latter is an unavoidable problem in CE.

I KNEW Halo was missing something! If only, if only...

But anyway, it's coming along quite nicely. I think the tiles on the bridge are cool, but the Master Chief's armor is a little... green. But oh well, I'm really looking forward to what we'll see and what improvements have been made over SPV1.

EDIT: Oh yeah... what is the PP beam in the second and third pictures doing? It looks like it hit the pillar, kind of zig-zagged its way around it, and then ended off in a straight path.

[demonmaster3k]

no offense, but the bridge doesn't seem halo
it looks more like something out of metroid
the first pic, guilty spark, looks awesome tho

[m13120]

It is the bridge texture that bothers me

[{MMT} Pope]

no offense, but the bridge doesn't seem halo
it looks more like something out of metroid
the first pic, guilty spark, looks awesome tho

Actually the bridge to me look like one of the halo 3 multiplayer maps with the bridge on the multiplayer vidoc

[Dole]

no offense, but the bridge doesn't seem halo
it looks more like something out of metroid
They're Halo 3 textures replicated from Ephitaph.
The only reason you don't like it is because the difference in detail between the custom textures, and... every other texture on the bridge.
And the fact that in Halo 3 they were uberbumped, which brought out the detail, the dimension, and the color, even.


EDIT: Oh yeah... what is the PP beam in the second and third pictures doing? It looks like it hit the pillar, kind of zig-zagged its way around it, and then ended off in a straight path.
I thought that too, but it's just a plasma splash decal on the edge of the wall, which gives the illusion of a curving contrail.

Edit: So... I see the block hands were never reworked.

[samnwck]

That first pic is ub3r h0t. Good job. But i would have to say that the bridge texture does look a little overwhelming. I think making the tiling a little less would make it look better but who knows.

[Haloking365]

Amazing, amazing work. The re-textured cliff walls give off a WHOLE new feeling to that level. Kind of like a gorge in the rain forest. Sooooo cool. Awesome with the floor textures, although its kind of "alien" to the rest of the scene (no pun intended:p). The shield effect looks kind of wierd though, almost like its in different pieces. Well, anyway. Awesome work. Keep it up.

[ExAm]

I KNEW Halo was missing something! If only, if only...hahaha, Mac version has it :) Anyways, looking good. The shields just need to be reverted to their original state. They look...wrong, right now.

[Masterz1337]

Edit: So... I see the block hands were never reworked.
Well, if we wanted to redo the hands, using real fingers, we would have to re-animate the whole h1 MC, cinimatic anims too. Or mak ehim have fists, which would look pretty stuipid.

[{MMT} Pope]

Well, if we wanted to redo the hands, using real fingers, we would have to re-animate the whole h1 MC, cinimatic anims too. Or mak ehim have fists, which would look pretty stuipid.

No its good..your not going to notice the hands just kicking the crap outta brutes.

[Dole]

Well, if we wanted to redo the hands, using real fingers, we would have to re-animate the whole h1 MC, cinimatic anims too. Or mak ehim have fists, which would look pretty stuipid.
The SPv1 Biped had hands.

[squall2442]

OmfG look at d rockets chasing the banshee~ and check out the brute thru the glass on the bridge.. it looks badass lol

[TIA Gangsta]

That...bridge...is...too...amazing...

And do marines use rocket launchers now? There's two rockets looking to be chasing a Banshee.
And the reason the pelican looks dull, is cos it's pretty much the only thing in there that's untouched from Bungie...CMT content just makes standard H1 content look boring :XD:

And as much as I love the MA4K, PLEASE don't tell me you've replaced the Assault Rifle (don't care which one) as the main weapon MC holds in cutscenes...NEVER replace the AR in ANYTHING...
And dear god I hope you haven't replaced the AR in spawns...

[ExAm]

They didn't. Read the field manual thread.

[TIA Gangsta]

They didn't. Read the field manual thread.

Thank goodness...

[Caboos001]

Loving the bridge, only thing that seems out of place are the barrier and whatnot on it...Out of place detail wise that is not suggestion to remove them 0_o


...And the reason the pelican looks dull, is cos it's pretty much the only thing in there that's untouched from Bungie...CMT content just makes standard H1 content look boring...

High def pleican skins in future MB CMT? :awesome:

[Arteen]

The bridge texture looks... off. I think that the gap between each "tile" is too thick.

[Masterz1337]

The chief uses different weapons in differn't cutscenes.

The pelicans are all new, although the shaders are a bit boring. I'll work on them and show the new ones later today.


The SPv1 Biped had hands.
And they sucked bit time, the gun would just stick to his palms. We know what we're doing when it comes to bipeds now. The SPI is the 5th biped we've done.

[Dole]

hahaha, Mac version has it :)
Wise guy, eh? <:mad:>

[n00b1n8R]

meh, who cares about macs.

[Haloking365]

meh, who cares about macs.
Not I!:p

[Pred1ator]

meh, who cares about macs.

i do, its a good development computer

[Syuusuke]

Me too, but this is about CMT, not MAC...s

Mmm Ma5k in SP, beautiful.

[Masterz1337]

First post updated :)

[{MMT} Pope]

it would be cool to see the diffrent brutes, but i do love the elite with the dual plasmas

[Dole]

In the first picture, what's the little red thing that looks like a cigarette butt?

[n00b1n8R]

FUCK YOU MOUSE I WANT MY UPDATES..
ok, nice, but i still say the tiles are to far apart.
you couldn't make regional damage on the wraith so that you can HS the driver then drive it?

what happens when the gold elite drops his duels? spawns 2 guns?
does that mean that theirs gona be more eneimies duelwielding? will you be using kenny's duel script? (i assume not but that'd be cool if you could duel too).

how hard is this going to be? compared to the default campaign. and how crazy will this be? (i mean, theirs duelwielding gold elites and wraiths charging up the beach ffs..)

[Masterz1337]

The little red thing looks like my CPU meter, dunno how it got into the screenshot.

The elites are the only dual wielding enemies.
Players can not ual wield.

And it is insanly crazy, like, 40 characters on screen crazy.

[Dole]

I'm not sure the tiles are too far apart, I just think they need a deep overlaying bump on the grooves to complement the black lines.

[n00b1n8R]

The little red thing looks like my CPU meter, dunno how it got into the screenshot.

The elites are the only dual wielding enemies.
Players can not ual wield.

And it is insanly crazy, like, 40 characters on screen crazy.

no duelwielding spikers D:

[Sever]

Its like a new campaign, just on the old maps. KICKS ASS!!! For a comparison, anyone here a C&C fan? Got Generals Zero Hour? Download the Shockwave mod. It basically does the same thing, with new units, new AI, and a massive boost in graphics. Just wiki Shockwave mod for info and the link

[Abdurahman]

cool, ill try that

[TIA Gangsta]

As much as the awesome high-res textures look, I think you're trying a bit too hard to make it look like a 360 game...Like that last pic would just look weird in game, with all standard textures around, and one really nice looking high-res wall texture randomly there.
The bridge is perfect, cos it covers most of your surroundings (when you'll be playing on it), and really gives a good feel, like you're playing an early Halo 3, but random high-res textures like the last picture aren't too useful..

[DaneO'Roo]

gah, wtf is with the bumps for the bridge tiles *fixes* and btw, Dole is my new fav forum member, he sees stuff. Yes, they're tiles from the halo 3 Map Epitiha or watever it is. You see them in the latest vidoc. I just fucked up the bumps, tis why they look shit there.

[DaneO'Roo]

As much as the awesome high-res textures look, I think you're trying a bit too hard to make it look like a 360 game...Like that last pic would just look weird in game, with all standard textures around, and one really nice looking high-res wall texture randomly there.
The bridge is perfect, cos it covers most of your surroundings (when you'll be playing on it), and really gives a good feel, like you're playing an early Halo 3, but random high-res textures like the last picture aren't too useful..

shows how much you do know about your halo lol, for that is a STOCK Halo 1 texture.

xD

[TIA Gangsta]

shows how much you do know about your halo lol, for that is a STOCK Halo 1 texture.

xD

Lol, really? It looks pretty high-res and detailed compared to the rest of the scenery...
Well I don't exactly stare and admire the walls when I'm playing.

[VendavalEste]

My comp better be able to display such good textures, this is looking fantastic!

[t3h m00kz]

That assault carbine he's holding in the first picture looks sexy.

[Dole]

I find it fascinating that in 500 years, military arms manufacturers will discover that gun sights can function with higher accuracy when the positions of the aperture and the blade are switched.
I wonder why we never thought of that before...

[Caboos001]

Sweet, loving the new shield on the turret and the fact that now we have more diverse marines! More than one black soldier, woot. I was scared that the human race was primarily just made up of Mexicans and Caucasians 0_o hey, where did the Asians go?!

[ExAm]

They died, obviously.

[Masterz1337]

3 new pics, and one a major reveal. The brute is still using a debug rig, so it will look even beter when it is done with a better one, that wasn't done in 10 minutes.

[thehoodedsmack]

That Brute looks silly...

[{MMT} Pope]

thats the most funniest brute ive seen..good work though

[bleach]

thats it...i'm going to DL the SPv2, but only POA, Halo, TaR, tSC, and AotCR. I hope i can still play it like that and that i learn how to start the singleplayer in Halo CE.

[Caboos001]

Looks like one of them giant inflatable toys you can get at your local Toys-R-us. No not that kind of inflatable toy!

EDIT: Just saw the huge team of like 10 jackals in pic 6. They going to line up in formation or just be out of order? No matter, still going to be funny as hell to toss a frag into a group that large.

[demonmaster3k]

40 characters on screen!!!!! OMG UBER LAG JUST LIKE SPV1

[Elite Killa]

That brute reminds me of my sister when she's happy :lol:

[ExAm]

thats it...i'm going to DL the SPv2, but only POA, Halo, TaR, tSC, and AotCR. I hope i can still play it like that and that i learn how to start the singleplayer in Halo CE.

Map_name X

Finally, a way to shoot those bastards out of the turrets!

[Abdurahman]

Wow. Just Wow. This SPV2 is gonna be the best thing ever. I just can't wait.

[DaneO'Roo]

Brutes rig fails. Plus, if theres going to be another helmet, please give me the model so I can unwrap it and skin it properly, cuz at the moment its just a mashed up version of the other helmet <_>

[Dole]

Why is the Brute sitting around, staring into space like some kind of autistic bullet-sponge?

[DaneO'Roo]

Cuz hes from poland.


Seriosuly though, the full helmed brutes look baddass, but because of the rig the minor helmet dudes look crappier because of the rig, with they're broken neck and all :P

[Masterz1337]

It's prat of the animation, when the brute bangs on their chest and puts their arms out and then attack.

[{MMT} Pope]

It's part of the animation, when the brute bangs on their chest and puts their arms out and then attack.

Now that is cool

[n00b1n8R]

that brute is lolugly.

why are their spec ops hunters on POA?

[Reaper Man]

...That brute looks cell shaded.

[DaneO'Roo]

That brute is also lacking normals and dynamic lighting. Not really in a comparable state to halo 2/3 brutes when it's got a crap rig, and this is halo 1.

Far as I know, it's not cel shaded. I think it's just....i dunno but Masterz, that skin you have on there looks like an old one, and not like this one I sent you a little while ago:

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9470/cebruteuvwdetail1gp3.jpg

thats half res btw

Actually, It might be cuz it doesn't have that much dynamic shading... *does stuff in photoshop*

[TIA Gangsta]

LOL! That Brute looks like it's been on a serious diet and is saying "LOL IM BEING SHOT AT!"
Almost as funny as the smiling Brute in the old H3 ViDoc

[teh lag]

That skin needs the nose thing I told you to do Dano :cop:

[Dr Jaul]

idk i think that the brute looks too much like a dinosaur and not enough like an ape. maybe if there was a bit more fur instead of bare skin...? idk or maybe make the model a bit more hunched over.

EDIT:aww hell yeah that skin looks hella awesome. but the model still needs to be a little less straight-backed.

[AAA]

yeah, just make the hair the same way you do the grass, attach it to th biped and tada, you got hair.................the brute looks real goofy, look as if the head is a little skinny, makes it look like it's too fdar from the shoulders, you guys tend to have that problem.... or maybe it's just the picture =/

Well, Awesome updates, LOVING THAT BRIDGE,

*imagines sliding across bridge and tripping over elites....slides off bridge somehow*..............okay, that didn't end well...

I really do hope my computer can handle this kickass revolutionary impact for Halo CE. :Two Thumbs Up:

[n00b1n8R]

I think the reason this brute looks weird is because all the hair on it is actual strands of hair anot not a whooly teddy bare with bumpmaps like the H2 brutes were used to..

[Edward Elrich]

The spec-ops hunter's weapon looks out of place compared to the rest of his body. The armor is all banged and battered, and here's this shiny unscratched weapon. (it also looks a little cartoon-like, at least to me.)

[Echo 418]

5-8-07

http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce&#37;201%202007-05-07%2022-01-07-65.jpg


Its normal i see a little part of a gadget on the vista sidebar... the memory gauge? :D

http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/11/11/17/18/i10.jpg

Anyway, this is sooooo cool!!
I hope SPv2 release!!!!

A lot of time later:


A friend : What you play??
Me : I play to Halo 1.
A friend : Thats impossible...
Me : ya its possible!
A friend : Thats an PC b&#234;ta of Halo 3?!?
Me : No
A friend : ...... WHAT IS IT?!!?
Me: Thats halo CE... with the CMT Single Player v2!!
A friend : OOO ok! So... for what you say Halo 1?
Me : But its it! Its just the best re-make of the world by CMT!!!

[Boba]

5-8-07

http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-07%2022-01-07-65.jpg


Its normal i see a little part of a gadget on the vista sidebar... the memory gauge? :D

http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/11/11/17/18/i10.jpg

Anyway, this is sooooo cool!!
I hope SPv2 release!!!!

A lot of time later:


A friend : What you play??
Me : I play to Halo 1.
A friend : Thats impossible...
Me : ya its possible!
A friend : Thats an PC bêta of Halo 3?!?
Me : No
A friend : ...... WHAT IS IT?!!?
Me: Thats halo CE... with the CMT Single Player v2!!
A friend : OOO ok! So... for what you say Halo 1?
Me : But its it! Its just the best re-make of the world by CMT!!!






Uh.

[n00b1n8R]

any chance we can have just 1 demo level?
like A20 or something?

[HDoan]

I never knew there was a A20, only A10 and A30

[ICEE]

anyone knwo the actual release date for the thing?

[zade43]

Dont pester, its realy annoying for people who have to answer this.

So in response to your question, its ment to come out before H2V.

[DaneO'Roo]

RIGHT NOW


*DOWNLOAD LINK* (http://www.h2vista.net/forums/main.php)


D:

[TPE]

any chance we can have just 1 demo level?
like A20 or something?yeah like the silent cartographer like in halo trial?

or at least give us a ball park estimate of when it will be released

[supersniper]

RIGHT NOW


*DOWNLOAD LINK* (http://www.h2vista.net/forums/main.php)


D:

dude not cool u had me freaking out I WAS SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!

[Edward Elrich]

AWESOME!!!! [/sarcasm] Actually, by the time you finish reading this, it'll be closer to being done and released.:D

Anyway, back on topic, why do I see the outline of a needler in the blood, but no needler? (looking at the very faint HUD message reading "hold 'e' to pick up <needler image>"?) Someone should darken the HUD message for that level, even if it's only a little bit. (or make the outline a tad bit darker)
Awesome, no more "missing string" things popping up whenever you can do an action!

[n00b1n8R]

I never knew there was a A20, only A10 and A30

I meant A30 :saddowns:
(thats halo right?)

[Hotrod]

Yes, A30 is the level "Halo".

[supersniper]

lol we should create a lvl A20. JK but im wondering why did they skip A20 hmm.

[itszutak]

The names have patterns; I guess the developers at Bungie named them because it allowed them to sort out what map had what in it. :)

[Echo 418]

Uh.

Lol... Its a joke :D so it really appear!

[Dootuz]

wtf is that thing in the last pic on page 1. it dosent look like the burte wtf is it (please dont tell me thats a Spartan 2 or 3)

[Edward Elrich]

It's a brute. (a brute minor, if i'm correct, they're the only ones you can shoot off the helmet with, and they don't have too much armor)

[supersniper]

hey i was wondering will tatarous be in here or no cuz that would be really cool to play with his big hammer thing. well hes probably not in it but it would be cool to use his hammer thing.

[teh lag]

No. There is no reason for him to be in Halo 1's singleplayer. And there will nto be gravity hammers either, due to time constraints. (Animating brutes for a whole new weapons set = not fun.)

[supersniper]

yea i figured it would be tough to do that.

[-£§- §age]

Nice.
*dies from the shininess*

Bumpalicious bridge you've got there.

[das1988]

I see marines in the Silent Cartographer screenshot. Does this mean your not replacing every single marine with the spartan model again?

[Zeph]

http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-04-16%2016-06-30-10.jpg
oh god, it looks worse than it used to. I cant tell if it's a bad multi, bad lighting changes, or GPU artifacts coincidentally placed.

[Masterz1337]

Look at the date of the url Zeph...

Not that it matters, as we're using the old CMT biped.

[=(KOH)=will]

omg it looks awsome guys,nice work guys. :eek:

[Haloking365]

Look at the date of the url Zeph...

Not that it matters, as we're using the old CMT biped.
Really? Please tell me your using a different skin. The one in this pic: http://n00ble.com/resources/Spartan+Ally.jpg Was WAYYYYYYYYY to yellow.

[n00b1n8R]

I think it's just the lighting.

what's with all the evolution guys coming over to this board trying to nock the work?

[Zeph]

Look at the date of the url Zeph...

Not that it matters, as we're using the old CMT biped.

Wow, wonderful promotion you've got going. It's great that you show things off that you plan on not using.

[Masterz1337]

Why don't you as them?

Anyway, the shaders on the old biped are going to be totaly redone.

Edit: Zeph, the decision to change it was made after that pic was posted..

[Ki11a_FTW]

http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-07%2022-01-07-65.jpg (http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce&#37;201%202007-05-07%2022-01-07-65.jpg)

CMT new floor bitmap ^
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1147/deniedug9.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deniedug9.jpg)
Halo 3 floor bitmap ^ (click the image to enlarge)




your bitmap fails.

[Masterz1337]

So, if we do something based on something we saw, it's a error, and if we replicate it, it's not custom? Good Grief.

[Edward Elrich]

I like the differences. It shows that there actually WAS some difference in the architecture of the different Halos. (compare the doors in the library/control room of both Alpha and Delta Halos, for example). And you're comparing the floor of a room to the surface of an extension bridge. We don't even know where said room is located in the Halo universe.

And I think it's a good job, seeing as CMT's gone off of mere pictures and a few weapon descriptions, and created the models/bitmaps. (The fuel rod gun on the spec-ops hunter could use a re-skinning, though. It looks out of place compared to the rest of it, imo.)

[Caboos001]

Oh snap I just saw this in pic 5, is that grunt by the tree charging the PP for an over charge shot?

[Haloking365]

Oh snap I just saw this in pic 5, is that grunt by the tree charging the PP for an over charge shot?
Yes, i believe so.

[das1988]

Hrm.. Does that mean there is more adjustments being made to the Artificial Intelligence this time around? If so, what would they be? :P
Either way, keep up the great work!

[Haloking365]

Hrm.. Does that mean there is more adjustments being made to the Artificial Intelligence this time around? If so, what would they be? :P
Either way, keep up the great work!
Ummmm, from what i know, there redoing most of the AI because there adding new bipeds, i.e. Brutes, New hunters, different classes of half of the characters, S-III's, and a few others. So it would only make sense.

[das1988]

Sounds great, pick up the info little by little through forums?
One thing that I disliked about v1 was that they replaced almost all marine allies with the spartan bipeds which seemed to fire massive amounts of grenades. I liked the fact that my allies were no longer completely useless, but I missed the 'personality' of the marine allies (dialogue and different AI actions).
In one of the screens (Silent cartographer) I see marines are back, do you think we can expect AI improvements for them, such as improving their firing rate with the AR (3 bullet bursts just never did cut it)?

[Haloking365]

Sounds great, pick up the info little by little through forums?
Yeah, i did, and all of the stuff i "picked up" is HERE (http://n00ble.com/22.html), on my website.

[Ki11a_FTW]

So, if we do something based on something we saw, it's a error, and if we replicate it, it's not custom? Good Grief.

i never said that, your just looks bad, it needs to be more darker

[supersniper]

dude i just hope that the AI on the spartan side r way smarter then in SPv1

LOL betraying themselfs with the BRG but i know thats not going to happen anymore. its a rare gun now!!!

[TPE]

Look at the date of the url Zeph...

Not that it matters, as we're using the old CMT biped.now i get to experience puking on my keyboard again...

1 Q, why?

[Pred1ator]

now i get to experience puking on my keyboard again...

1 Q, why?

cause many people still like it..yeesh

[itszutak]

we're using the old CMT biped.

NO. BAD MASTERZ.

BAD!

:mad:

[n00b1n8R]

NO. BAD MASTERZ.

BAD!

:mad:
qft.

[DaneO'Roo]

http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce%201%202007-05-07%2022-01-07-65.jpg (http://cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce&#37;201%202007-05-07%2022-01-07-65.jpg)

CMT new floor bitmap ^
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1147/deniedug9.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deniedug9.jpg)
Halo 3 floor bitmap ^ (click the image to enlarge)




your bitmap fails.



no, the bump map does. It is now fixed anyway.


Also, I think I might fix the halo 1 hi res because I was learning when I made that thing, so it's got some errors. I'll fix it and see if yas like it betterer. Basically, it was too bright and dark in different places, like Zeph showed in that picture.

[nooBBooze]

Not that it matters, as we're using the old CMT biped.
WTF

:_(

(Now, id prefer a slightly revised h1 MC - but meh thats just my opinion)

[TPE]

my issue is the H1 HI Def spartan was perfected, and now were switching to the craptacular one

i want pics ingame of it, it better not make me puke ether

[das1988]

What do people in hell want?

[itszutak]

What do people in hell want?
Uh...Freedom? Heaven? Forgiveness? <_<

[nooBBooze]

What do people in hell want?
lol
[h1mc cutscenes=:haw: cmtmc cutscenes=:shake:]

[das1988]

Ice water

[.:}_50Çã{_|neا†yles<™>:.]

Would be cool if the chiefs armor looked a bit shinier as did the elites..

[Haloking365]

Would be cool if the chiefs armor looked a bit shinier as did the elites..
The hi-res skins being redone.

[jedimas4]

is the mod still on track for its late may release, not meaning to annoy anyone, but late may is right around the corner

[Masterz1337]

No, it's not.

[Edward Elrich]

Stuff's still being finalized/edited, like the Spartan III's. (unless Masterz's avatar is now an obselete model.) I don't mind the delay, since it means that SPv2 will be that much better when it IS released. My guess would be around June 25, tbh.

[Haloking365]

DAAAAAAAMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNN. Sweet vid, even though its not even done yet. Although 1:46 had me questioning the brutes:confused:.

[Ki11a_FTW]

looks nice, work on the brute pouding on chest anim.

[Xegrot]

Those Brute animations look even sillier than the picture of the one that has Autism on the first page. :saddowns:

They don't look hunched over enough, and they look mighty skinny for Brutes.

[ImSpartacus]

i saw that, it looks cool. i didnt like the dramatic sword elite kills, they reeked of fake-ness.

but the first put of the video was awesome, great angles. i liked it, the last part while in the hud sucked movie-wise, but gameplay looked ok.

[Pooky]

The animations for the Brutes look really silly. Also your FPS was pretty sad. Snow T&R looks better than I thought it would though.

[=(KOH)=will]

when is the specific date does spv2 comes out. I know its very soon but what date.

[Dole]

I see the SIII's are still being witheld. Can't wait. :)

[TPE]

the SIII looks too ugly. textures are below meh, looks too much like stock. and lots of lag, looks unplayable on my computer.

[Abdurahman]

I see the energy sword still gets destroyed when the elite dies. Will we be able to wield the sword?

[Pred1ator]

I see the energy sword still gets destroyed when the elite dies. Will we be able to wield the sword?

due to limited tag space....no

[TeeKup]

Lmao the brute looks like he's walking like a retard. Other than that, cant wait.

[Masterz1337]

due to limited tag space....no
That's not the reason, we just don't think swords belong in h1.

[TeeKup]

That's not the reason, we just don't think swords belong in h1.

Which they don't. The sword is a snipers nightmare in Halo 2. In halo 1 it's about as useful as a rock.

[Haloking365]

due to limited tag space....no
Why do you act like your on CMT:confused2:? I dont believe you are....

[Pred1ator]

Why do you act like your on CMT:confused2:? I dont believe you are....

read the thread...swords also lag and glitch

i am only here for the maps, i really hate cmt to be honest

[supersniper]

read the thread...swords also lag and glitch

i am only here for the maps, i really hate cmt to be honest

they do and plus it looks awesome when they just disappear like that.!!!!!!!!!

[bleach]

offtopic: i think once when i killed an elite who had a sword on T&R, i was really close to the sword, that it drained my shield by like 15%.

I'm here because CMT is cool and their maps as like the team.

[Abdurahman]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! I was really hoping for the sword to be in it, but u guys are the experta. And the team that made this. So I shouldn't complain. Its awesome enough already : )

[Edward Elrich]

Yes, it is. But hopefully it isn't going to be as laggy as it was in the video. (or is that my graphics again?)

[ICEE]

this looks good so far, i dont know why people rag on CMT all the time. pisses me off. people say things like "wll CMT's blah blah blah sucks arse" well id like to see anyone else do better with entirely customized material. ok ranting and flaming aside, im looking foreward to this, more then H2V even. only one thing that i wish would change: the biped from the original is cartoony. not an immense problem because frankly, i dont have to look at it. i AM it.

im glad the energy sword aint gonna be wieldable, in H1 it is crap, and no modder can change that.

the brutes look good to me, im aware that the things i saw in the beta film were BETA so im sure theyll come along, but they are an entirely custom biped... so theres that. im glad you decided not to add the drones in too i frickin hate them, boring to fight. just one question: covenant carbine, yes or no?

[supersniper]

+rep for that wonderful speach!!!!!!!

[VendavalEste]

Trailer was awesome.

And 1:55 to 1:59 was the single most exciting moment of my life.

[nooBBooze]

the biped from the original is cartoony. not an immense problem because frankly, i dont have to look at it. i AM it.


sry but youll have to look at it unless you keep on skippng the cinematics

[Ki11a_FTW]

im glad the energy sword aint gonna be wieldable, in H1 it is crap, and no modder can change that.

only sux on online play, due to syncing issues, with the lunge. It could be almost perfected on halo 1 SP

[ICEE]

does everyone here wish to repeatedly argue retarded points? halo 1 isnt designed for energy sword use. the weapon itself may work perfectly but its not going to integrate well into gameplay. what i want to know though, is if my favorite gun (covie carbine) is going to be in it?

[Masterz1337]

We have a human carbine, so there's no use for there to be a covie one.

[teh lag]

only sux on online play, due to syncing issues, with the lunge. It could be almost perfected on halo 1 SP

No, it couldn't. We've tried a number of times.

[ICEE]

bummer. the human carbine is good, but it fires differently from its covenant counterpart, so i figured that the covie carbine might be implimented in SP as well. unless you altered the Human carbine from the MP maps

[Ki11a_FTW]

No, it couldn't. We've tried a number of times.


well you got the lunge and melee, thats all you really need.

[Masterz1337]

YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FULLY LUNGE IN H1!!!!

NO FUCKING SWORDS

[ICEE]

i agree

[supersniper]

and ironclad i like the covie carbine too and the human one to me is nothing like the covie one. idk it just doesnt have that umph to it.

[Edward Elrich]

The human one is great at mid- to close range, I don't think it was intended to be a distance weapon. And it's an assault carbine, unlike the covie one. If it's the covie carbine you want, wait until H2Vista comes out, I'm sure CMT will do a custom carbine then. (and make it look better than Halo 3's :D )

[ICEE]

screw vista. im never going to get it. hopefully CMT will have mercy and convert the H2 legit stuff into CE form so we can play with it. if at all possible

[Pred1ator]

screw vista. im never going to get it. hopefully CMT will have mercy and convert the H2 legit stuff into CE form so we can play with it. if at all possible

thats what the z-team is for...

[ICEE]

but maybe CMT will do campaign. thats what i mean. Z team doesnt customize as much as cmt, thats why i would rather CMT do it

[CtrlAltDestroy]

except like, about half of cmt's animations and stuff is mine :rolleyes:

[Masterz1337]

Most of ZMT is on CMT as well...

ZMT is just as capable and good as CMT.

[ICEE]

the stuff they do always looks good but i like the custom aspect of CMT. i dont know a lot of Z maps, but CMT always seems to have weapons and gameplay that are often more fun then what bungie does

[CtrlAltDestroy]

My point was that most of our resources and members are shared, so there isn't much of a skill difference, which is what I thought you implied initially.

We're working on something custom; it's in the concept stage right now though.

[ICEE]

oh i see, ill check it out. didnt mean to belittle Zteams skills

[ImSpartacus]

We have a human carbine, so there's no use for there to be a covie one.

Just because it says carbine in the name, does not put it in the 'carbine' box. the MA5K is very different from the Covie Carbine, extremely different.

half the clip, a scope, semi auto. there is not much that is similar.

its a-ok that u dont want to make a carbine, just dont act like the MA5K is a replacement for the covie carbine


screw vista. im never going to get it. hopefully CMT will have mercy and convert the H2 legit stuff into CE form so we can play with it. if at all possible

saying screw vista would put u in the same position 3 years from now as it would be to still running 98 now. u have to upgrade sometime, especially if u play games.

[ICEE]

if i upgrade to vista, itll be when its fully updated and DOESNT suck. plus you gotta stop telling people what to do

[Hotrod]

I just want to say that, according to the books, the MA5K is a Assault Rifle, and not a carbine, but it doesn't really matter if CMT decided to change it a bit from what it was in the book. I noticed that in the video, from 1:44 to 1:48, the brutes seem to have a tail-like thing on the back. Is this just a bug or is it supposed to be there?

[Roostervier]

It is the pole for the flag that is going to be on the higher ranking brutes' backs.

[Hotrod]

Then why does it move around like a tail?

[demonmaster3k]

screw vista. im never going to get it. hopefully

as long as you own a computer, your ass belongs to redmond, WA (mac sux, and with linux, you'll only play with yourself)

masterz you have a good team, i hope to get to where you guyies are at one day

[ICEE]

double post sorry

[ICEE]

as long as you own a computer, your ass belongs to redmond, WA (mac sux, and with linux, you'll only play with yourself)

masterz you have a good team, i hope to get to where you guyies are at one day
whatchu talkin bout willis?

[Masterz1337]

Then why does it move around like a tail?
we removed it a while ago. It was just something left over that I didn't remove.

[supersniper]

lol i think it shouldve stayed in showing the Custom part of the brute biped.

[ICEE]

so, was the brute made from total scratch or did you rip it and give it a new model?

[Pred1ator]

so, was the brute made from total scratch or did you rip it and give it a new model?

cmt never rips models, they make it thats why they are Custom Map Team

[ICEE]

dang... thats impressive that they made a biped all of their own. and people are giving them shit about it being "silly". looks damn good to me

[bleach]

i can't wait to use the Spartan Laser to cut down Brutes and the new Hunters!
BTW, if there was a tail, i think i noticed it then forgotten about it. But how long does it take for a brute to react to fight? Cuz they have to bang their chests, wiggle around, and then fight?

[ExAm]

hehe. Brutes with tails.

[bleach]

ya, thats a new thing! :lol: could we get an update on the progress of the CMT SPv2?

[Edward Elrich]

We got one two days ago. It's not like CMT does daily updates, not even Bungie does that.

[ICEE]

how long does it take for a brute to react to fight? Cuz they have to bang their chests, wiggle around, and then fight?



heheh i love it. by the time their ready for battle their dead

[itszutak]

You should give elites tails. <_<;

[ICEE]

anyone notice there are ZERO female covenants? never drop the soap ANYWHERE on high charity

[ExAm]

I don't think the females fight, and I believe there was mention of one or two in the books. Apparently they're "just for breeding".

[{MMT} Pope]

just like the really old times.

[Masterz1337]

On topic, update first page.

[Hotrod]

That Energy Sword is sexy...seriously. The Elites look a bit different, but it might be just me. This seems to be coming along quite well, the release of it seems really near.

[Haloking365]

Wow, to think how far they've come is just awesome. Im glad you updated the page, this thread was starting to get moldy.

[Revord]

Ive been lurking this forum now for a while. One thing I have to say about the single player maps from CMT is that they are awesome! I have been enjoying them more than the original campaign for HaloPC. Also, Im pretty stoked about what your coming up with for the v2. The teaser looked great from my point of view. Im not a mapper, or modder, or anything else. But what I see is really good stuff. I think the only thing that I could want for the single player maps is some kind of coop. People I know that do mods and maps for halo say its either impossible, or impractical. Honestly, I dont know, just my 2 cents worth. Thank you for the effort you guys are putting into this.
Revord

[Haloking365]

Ive been lurking this forum now for a while. One thing I have to say about the single player maps from CMT is that they are awesome! I have been enjoying them more than the original campaign for HaloPC. Also, Im pretty stoked about what your coming up with for the v2. The teaser looked great from my point of view. Im not a mapper, or modder, or anything else. But what I see is really good stuff. I think the only thing that I could want for the single player maps is some kind of coop. People I know that do mods and maps for halo say its either impossible, or impractical. Honestly, I dont know, just my 2 cents worth. Thank you for the effort you guys are putting into this.
Revord
Yea, there really setting the standard for what a good halo mod is. As far as a coop mod, i think you would have to convert the map into a MP map, and re-do a bunch of the netcode and stuff. Basically, it takes more time than its worth. But with H2vista, there's probably gonna be online coop(*crosss fingers*). Never know.

[ICEE]

wow looks sweet. oh, and sorry for my offtopic insurrection

[Ralex123]

I've been reading this thread for a long time and all I can say is... keep up the good work. I can't wait to fight the brutes and to test all the weapons+stuff you guys made. I appreciate your commitment to this cause and hope I can join you all in H2V. Thanks again.
P.S. I'm not exactly sure when the release of SPv2 is, so can some one tell me? I've been dying to know
P.S.S. Hey Mastercheifloser, did you leave Red Army? Just wondering.
Thanks again. :)

[ICEE]

the jackal plasma rifle looks so bitchin. i cant wait to use it, i know its weak in power, but dang if it has the speed i think it has, plus the stunning abilities of the other two rifles... ownage. before someone tells me that im sofa king wee todd edd, i did read about it, and how its power is toned down immensly from the other two.

[Haloking365]

the jackal plasma rifle looks so bitchin. i cant wait to use it, i know its weak in power, but dang if it has the speed i think it has, plus the stunning abilities of the other two rifles... ownage. before someone tells me that im sofa king wee todd edd, i did read about it, and how its power is toned down immensly from the other two.
Yea, the Jackal plasma rifle is a cool touch to the covie lineup. I wonder what cool features/abilities it has. Burn damage anyone:D(i was kidding about that guys....)?

[Ralex123]

Yea, the Jackal plasma rifle is a cool touch to the covie lineup. I wonder what cool features/abilities it has. Burn damage anyone:D(i was kidding about that guys....)?
I'm wondering about that too. I could almost swear I saw one in Spv1, but now I think I was hallucinating. The burn damage should be relatively low since it is mentioned in the Field Guide. It has a high rate of fire, so it should make up for the damage.

[Haloking365]

I'm wondering about that too. I could almost swear I saw one in Spv1, but now I think I was hallucinating. The burn damage should be relatively low since it is mentioned in the Field Guide. It has a high rate of fire, so it should make up for the damage.
Yea, im pretty sure you were hallucinating. I CANT FRIGGIN WAIT! The new SP is so close, but so far....

[ICEE]

yeah i know the feelin chances are you wont believe me, but rihgt now im more excited bout this than H3

[bleach]

that energy sword looks cool! Jackal Plasma Rifle, not that excited for it though. When is SPv2 gonna be released? a ETA date?

[Roostervier]

We have made 4 (bipeds) at least >_>.

[edit] Shit, I was responding to an old post. *Add contributing content here, please*

[bleach]

wait...are the map file sizes twice as large as the CMT SPv1 files?
since there are brutes...how many megabytes do brutes take up in the maps?

[Masterz1337]

AOTC is the largest map unrared, and it is 284MB.

[Hotrod]

That's about...like what...3 times bigger than the normal Halo 1 SP AOTCR?

[Masterz1337]

Normal b40 is 76 megs on PC.... lol.

[Hotrod]

Fine then, CMT's SPv2 AOTC is about 3.7368421052631578947368421052632 times bigger than the original Halo SP.

[ICEE]

god that will take a while to load... *searches for small ui*

[Masterz1337]

SP maps do not get checked for a checksum, so it will not effect your load times.

[Pooky]

The Energy Sword shaders look really bad with that Halo 1 sword model

[Edward Elrich]

*sighs with relief* my maps folder is around 7 or 8 gigs, and having SPv2 slow down startup time/load time would not be fun.

[Arteen]

I prefer the regular Halo 1 glow on the sword, but it looks nice nonetheless.

[Pooky]

It needs a new model, the Halo 1 sword model is so low poly it makes the shader look bad ._.

[ICEE]

i think it looks cool... but remember people he said it was an old pic.just as long as it doesnt look as wierd as the sword on my avatar. its good but really, it is too big. hehehe im gonna move all my maps into a holder folder for cmtspv2

[Pooky]

i think it looks cool... but remember people he said it was an old pic. hehehe im gonna move all my maps into a holder folder for cmtspv2

If you do that they won't run >.>

[ExAm]

Ive been lurking this forum now for a while. One thing I have to say about the single player maps from CMT is that they are awesome! I have been enjoying them more than the original campaign for HaloPC. Also, Im pretty stoked about what your coming up with for the v2. The teaser looked great from my point of view. Im not a mapper, or modder, or anything else. But what I see is really good stuff. I think the only thing that I could want for the single player maps is some kind of coop. People I know that do mods and maps for halo say its either impossible, or impractical. Honestly, I dont know, just my 2 cents worth. Thank you for the effort you guys are putting into this.
RevordNot one hundred percent impossible, just extremely impractical. Every play Area 53? That's a campaign-ish map with scripted encounters, and other players may join. Unfortunately, most of it doesn't sync at all, which makes it unplayable with others.

[Pooky]

If everyone is in at the start of the game, the very basic AI syncs reasonably well, since all it really does is just stand there and shoot.

[zade43]

Well lets get back on topic here guys and talk about the Pics/video or anything related with it instead of Area53... LOl sorry to sound like a pain in the ass XD

I agree with Fried in saying that the sword needs a new model...

[AAA]

I look constantly through that video and I didn't see one glimpse of the Energy sword.

Pic(s), anyone??

[Pooky]

http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2may/haloce&#37;201%202007-05-12%2011-54-26-85.jpg

both old pics.




looking at the first post helps...

[Dole]

I prefer the regular Halo 1 glow on the sword, but it looks nice nonetheless.
Yeah, that corona was the Energy Sword's crowning beauty. It was a shame to see it go in Halo 2, especially when it looked so nice in the E3 demo.
I guess they wanted to emphasize the fact that the plasma was self-contained within the magnetic field.

[Ralex123]

Sword looks nice. I still want to know something about the release date. I can't wait, I'm dying to know.

[ChemicalFizz]

How are the gun sounds?

Enhanced? Completely changed?

I sound very picky, but I think that making the sounds as top-notch as they can be will make CMT's mod much more enjoyable. Are you guys going to replace the Assault Rifle and Battle Rifle's sounds with the ones from Halo 3? For example, converting the video file to an audio, then cutting out the specific gun sound in goldwave, then sending it through tool? Personally, those new sounds are much more crisp than before, wouldn't you guys agree? Unless of course, cutting the sounds from Bungie's betalicious video and using it in CE is illegal... ;_;

[Warsaw]

But the sounds are still almost entirely unrealistic...:downs: WTF is this crappy pinging noise on the BR55, and the double clap sound on the MA5C and SMG? Bullets make a clean, crisp, staccato report, unlike what is portrayed in video games. I mean, yeah, sure, full auto is going to have a lot of sounds, but you should still be able to hear a clean crisp report for each round, not the mushy noise you get from the BR55 and M7 SMG in Halo 2, or the MA5B in Halo 1. Outdoors, it should pop then echo, and inside, it should be a loud-azz bang, varying depending on the size of the room.

If you want to know what the MA5C should sound like, go shoot the M24 sniper rifle in Battlefield 2...both the MA5C and the M24 fire the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge, so it should be almost the same (albeit with slight variations due to barrel length, and action shape, flash hiders (which the MA5C and M24 both lack), and the type of operation used on the gun (gas-operation on MA5C, manual bolt-action on the M24)).


Sorry, I've been itching to say that about video games for a long time. Graphics and game play aside, it is rare that you get good firearm sound effects from a game. BF2 and the original Red Orchestra mod are the only ones to ever get it right in my experience.

[ICEE]

i too am concerned about the sound. SMG's always sound like your making popcorn. even the true-to-H2 ones

[Warsaw]

The M7 should sound like something in between an H&K MP7 and an FN P90, seeing that the bullet is 5x23mm, where as the P90 and MP7 are 5.7x28mm and 4.6x30mm respectively.

[ImSpartacus]

How are the gun sounds?

Enhanced? Completely changed?

I sound very picky, but I think that making the sounds as top-notch as they can be will make CMT's mod much more enjoyable. Are you guys going to replace the Assault Rifle and Battle Rifle's sounds with the ones from Halo 3? For example, converting the video file to an audio, then cutting out the specific gun sound in goldwave, then sending it through tool? Personally, those new sounds are much more crisp than before, wouldn't you guys agree? Unless of course, cutting the sounds from Bungie's betalicious video and using it in CE is illegal... ;_;

the br sounds are absolutely amazing. i love those sounds. i have yet to hear the smg sound alone (without that damn spiker that everyone uses all the time).

[Hotrod]

The M7 should sound like something in between an H&K MP7 and an FN P90, seeing that the bullet is 5x23mm, where as the P90 and MP7 are 5.7x28mm and 4.6x30mm respectively.

Wow, you sure know a lot about guns... In plus, it wouldn't be as cool, in my opinion, if the guns didn't make much noise when you shot them.

[AAA]

the pics weren't there before I posted, what's up with the Jackal plasma rifle?? it's got 192 Battery?...I can accept that. Nice update

[Warsaw]

Wow, you sure know a lot about guns... In plus, it wouldn't be as cool, in my opinion, if the guns didn't make much noise when you shot them.

They make plenty of noise. Actually, a P90 is louder than the M7 (Halo SMG, for those of you not familiar with all of the designations of the Halo universe).

And thanks for the compliment. I try.:cool:

[bleach]

wow..that is pretty good explanation for custom guns and real weapons:) . Any ETA? guess maybe? update on how the SPv2 is going?

[ExAm]

The point of a game is to make stuff sound cool, not necessarily ultrarealistic.

[Reaper Man]

Yeah, that corona was the Energy Sword's crowning beauty. It was a shame to see it go in Halo 2, especially when it looked so nice in the E3 demo.
I guess they wanted to emphasize the fact that the plasma was self-contained within the magnetic field.
Nah, probably because it would kill framerate to have that kind of glow in first person.

[Warsaw]

The point of a game is to make stuff sound cool, not necessarily ultrarealistic.

They didn't even sound cool in Halo 1 or Halo 2. :rolleyes:

Everyone who thinks the MA5B in Halo 1 sounded intimidating, say "I."

Everyone who thinks the same of the M7 SMG in Halo 2, also say "I."

[ICEE]

they didnt sound intimidating because the guns were weak. no matter how crappy the gun sounds, if it is a kickass weapon, its scary

[ExAm]

It's "aye". Agreed, they did not sound cool, but real life gun sounds are bland, most of the time. This is why game designers make more interesting sound effects for their guns.

[Warsaw]

Have you ever fired a real gun, of decent caliber? That, my friend, sounds so much cooler than even the Halo 2 shotgun (which has one of the coolest sounds of all the Halo weapons). Battlefield 2 is not enough to make an accurate assessment.

And a great gun with a lame sound only sounds intimidating once it has a reputation built up. And there are always n00bs who don't know better.

However, I think we can all agree that the Halo 2/3 plasma rifle sound effect is quite a piece of work...that statement being associated with a negative connotation.

[Pooky]

However, I think we can all agree that the Halo 2/3 plasma rifle sound effect is quite a piece of work...that statement being associated with a negative connotation.

I can accept the lecture on guns, but how the hell do you know what a Plasma Rifle is supposed to sound like?

[BobtheGreatII]

I can accept the lecture on guns, but how the hell do you know what a Plasma Rifle is supposed to sound like?

I don't know, I have to agree with him. It actually sounds like it should be what that gun would sound like. Clear something up for me will you? On the plasma rifle there is a metal strip behind the two plasma points. I always figured that this was some kinda of magnetic propulsion system. The energy (plasma) would gather at the front, and then this strange plate would send a short burst of electricity through it launching a small plasma bolt forward. Just an Idea...:rolleyes: They need books for Halo, just like the ones they make for Star Wars, where they describe the mechanics of all the vehicles and technology of the movies.....:XD:

[ExAm]

That was my theory as well. They've actually changed it for Halo 3. The plasma fires from the top segment, instead of from in between the two glowing prongs. This leads me to believe that the bottom portion is the battery, connected to the main part of the weapon via electrical field between the two prongs. Someone needs to make an animation for an estimated plasma rifle battery reload. This principle works with either iteration of the plasma rifle, if you think about it.

[n00b1n8R]

Everyone who thinks the MA5B in Halo 1 sounded intimidating, say "I."

I :eyesroll:

[Dr Jaul]

since we are on the subject of sound i am curious as to why in spv1 durring the beach assault did the background noise stop when all the battle rifles were being fired? and it happens in other places too when there are alot of environmental sounds some wont be played. and the AA rocket launcher, all it did was click. i kept on hoping that it would atleast whoosh but it never did.

[Dole]

I don't know, I have to agree with him. It actually sounds like it should be what that gun would sound like. Clear something up for me will you? On the plasma rifle there is a metal strip behind the two plasma points. I always figured that this was some kinda of magnetic propulsion system. The energy (plasma) would gather at the front, and then this strange plate would send a short burst of electricity through it launching a small plasma bolt forward. Just an Idea...:rolleyes: They need books for Halo, just like the ones they make for Star Wars, where they describe the mechanics of all the vehicles and technology of the movies.....:XD:
The cross-section diagnostics from DK Books? I love those things, Halo really does need something like that.

[Warsaw]

That was my theory as well. They've actually changed it for Halo 3. The plasma fires from the top segment, instead of from in between the two glowing prongs. This leads me to believe that the bottom portion is the battery, connected to the main part of the weapon via electrical field between the two prongs. Someone needs to make an animation for an estimated plasma rifle battery reload. This principle works with either iteration of the plasma rifle, if you think about it.

That is asinine, no offense. I think that is a glitch (it did this with the Heretic Leader in Halo 2 as well, but it obviously came out from in-between in first person)...it should be coming out from between the prongs. It makes more sense that way. The prongs ionize and heat up the air in between them, creating a plasma, and accelerate it electromagnetically outwards towards a target as a plasmoid (Wiki that term if you need to know what it is), and the plasmoid's inertia and magnetic fields within itself hold it together while en-route to the target.

The way you have it set up makes no sense at all. That electric field between the prongs being the connector would be totally pointless, as it would be more practical and efficient to have a hard-wire inside, rather than a device outside that invites dirt, grime, and malfunction. However, I do agree that the battery is in the bottom, but my theory is that the top-half is for cooling.

As far as how it should sound, I don't know, but I do know it sure as hell wouldn't sound like it did in Halo 2. That sound does not correlated to anything a magnetically fired gun would make, and plasma does not create sounds on its own. If I had to take a guess, I would say it would sound sort of like the Halo 1 version, only with more of a "whoosh" sound as the plasma is flung out towards the target by the electromagnets.

[ThatCrazyFox]

I :eyesroll:

QFT

[Warsaw]

So, you think the Halo 1 AR sounded scary? Did it make you run for cover, or make that user a priority target?

[Dole]

As far as how it should sound, I don't know, but I do know it sure as hell wouldn't sound like it did in Halo 2. That sound does not correlated to anything a magnetically fired gun would make, and plasma does not create sounds on its own. If I had to take a guess, I would say it would sound sort of like the Halo 1 version, only with more of a "whoosh" sound as the plasma is flung out towards the target by the electromagnets.
But the Halo 1 PR sounded like it was manufatured by Nerf. :(

[Warsaw]

And the Halo 2 one sounded like a cheap plastic "laser gun" kind of toy that you buy your seven-year old kid to keep him or her occupied outside while you do your work.

The high-pitched wine of a palsma weapon makes sense, because of the electric components and the high-voltage flowing through the magnets. The "whoosh" makes sense, because you are hurtling a blob of ionized gas at fairly high speed (though I'll admit, the Halo plasma rifles are as laughably slow as Star Wars blaster plasma bolts).

[Edward Elrich]

Just wait for the Jackal ones...