same here don't worryQuote:
Originally Posted by sdavis117
whatever you did kills frame rate badly, suggest reverting to a previous build or removing or undoing what was done with this one
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same here don't worryQuote:
Originally Posted by sdavis117
whatever you did kills frame rate badly, suggest reverting to a previous build or removing or undoing what was done with this one
This one has brand new lightmaps and all the invisible walls removed. Other than that it's all script changes iirc, so there's something wrong with the scripts.
K let's start with the positive things :
1 - doors and shields seem to sync once for good.
2 - There didn't seem to have anymore invisible walls.
3 - I still think this map is going to rock your world.
Negative stuff :
1- There's (in this build and in the build before) some REAL FPS/LAG ISSU !!! And the guys experimenting this problems didn't had it with older builds... this happened since you changed something in the script Ferno maybe... Well it's the reason everybody seems to agree on... Anyway it's not due to to many polys..
2 - The menu for "optimize map" option and stuff is not accessible. Now frankly I'd prefer we get rid of that.. We know now that 1st fps issues were due to some guys running peer to peer while playing halo.. and actual FPS issue , we just talked at point 1.
3 - There's still some scenery clipping.. maybe this is due to the 2 new panic teles... plz Ferno try to stop their anims as you said , it could help.. unless it's also script related..
It's a bit desperating to have something that was fixed (FPS issue) and that fucks up again 2 builds later.. Hope you can do soem magic again ferno..
Sdavis. Do you get the same frame rate issues when you create a LAN server? Or does this only happen when you join a game?
Also, the shields by the flags are now blue, they are meant to be green (unless yoyo changed his mind), probably just a mis assigned shader when compiling the BSP.
I always saw the shields as blue?
I noticed some scenery clipping issues, I'll post a vid of them when I get around to editing, rendering, and uploading.
Any new problems with the mongoose physics?
If so, please report to me, preferably in video form.
I thought the green was fugly so I changed it back. :gonk:
Only when I joined Lancer's server. I got framerates well into the triple digits when I played the map on LAN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
Update. Apparently all the dead bodys piling up in the sync room causes your frame rate to continually drop.
Were going to find a solution to this problem.
We found out it's from all the rag-dolls. To many dead bipeds.
Edit: Ninja'ed
Really? I never would have guessed. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
Create a dummy biped, like I told you to do a while back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
What's the difference between that and what they are already doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowSpartan
Btw did they not portal the crap outta the sync room?
Nice to hear some enthusiasm :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
ATV physics are fine now Pyong thks.
I assume they are using just the normal spartan gbxmodel, which having a lot of them on the map at one time will of course create performance issues. Instead, create a low poly biped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwood
I agree with this. Someone create like a 10 poly biped and be done with these shenanigans. The problem with the pollies is that on the clients there are 2x, that's why Freelancer didn't have any problems is because his machine is beast.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowSpartan
We have a fix for it I believe. Although a 10 polly biped would work much better.
What is your "fix"?Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
Ask Inferno. I'm not positive what it is, but he said he can fix it.
I have an idea. Crush more tofu.
What about this?
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...pedproblem.jpg
Would that make the body disappear after death?
Yeah.
you could also modify the body depleted limit in the collision
Who's making 10 polys biped?! Come on guys...
try sean's post later today. See if it'll help anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoyorast
tell them slobs on the yoyo forums to stop pm'img everyone, ffs.
Can you not simply have a biped with no render model?
Good to see the problems are getting fixed, we shall have our yoyo soon. :iamafag:
Problem fixed.
I cleaned up the crush biped. It no longer creates death effects or blood decals and when it dies it deletes itself so it does not create a huge body pile.
When ever I host a lan sever and it ends.. it starts automatically as if i'd pressed Enter (to start the game) anyone else get this?
with the yesterday build?Quote:
Originally Posted by tythespy
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by yoyorast
I got that problem too, might be something with the syncing scripts.
Do you have an init.txt file with a "sv_mapcycle_timeout" argument? That will cause user hosted games to "auto-start" even if you don't press enter.
Yea thats whats causeing it, didn't even think of that.
Things like that are problems that cannot be caused/fixed by map makers.Quote:
Originally Posted by tythespy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
That little glitch is how I hosted a 1.06 server before I went dedicated. It started off as me hosting games, and then leaving to go to dinner with my wife, but wanting the map to cycle while I was away. You would see my body, just standing there waiting to be killed. I hosted so much I just decided it was better to get out one of my spare pc's and go dedicated. Ah, simpler times.
I wish I had a spare computer to host a dedicated server with. :mech:
User hosted dedicated servers are usually pretty shitty when compared to rented servers.Quote:
Originally Posted by EX12693
Bleh, It all depends on Internet connection. I'm on FiOS and I host just fine without renting. It's pretty lagless generally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
Depends on the computer sometimes also...
Agreed. I have Comcast cable (BOO!) and host my own home dedicated server. I paid for 2mb up/15mb down, and my top speeds have always been 512kbps up/5mb down. Over a year of trying to solve the problem with Comcast, I ended up just getting a refund and a backpayment. Top speed is just going to be 512/5. It's a 'node' limitation aparently. I can't wait until I can get FIOS in my area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
And EX, I'm the computer nerd for my family. When people have problems, or spare parts, they get ahold of me. I get them, rebuild them, and get them back in service. Right now I'm working on repairing a Dell Poweredge 750 Blade Server I got in a local auction from the Indianapolis Airport. It cost $23usd after tax, and I have another $15 put into it for a power supply. It's all about thrify shopping. (And a patient wife who doesn't mind me warehousing all this computer crap, so long as it's out of the way)
Sorry is it still on topic to talk about yoyorast island here? :cop:
Well anyway... BIG "LAST" BETA TOMOROW.
And the map will actually work this time or ganon will have his way with me.
:ohdear:
am going to pee on youQuote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
That's hot
I'll help find a way to break the map so Inferno gets peed on.
And, to test the map... of course.
Down for this one~
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Originally Posted by Freelancer
That's an opinion I just can't share.
+waits patiently for yoyo2. though i was suprised from the video of it how similar it is to yoyo1
<3 all
/me thinks you should add in the AR shader like from Xbox Halo?
Possibly backpack weapon script too?
Just throwin it in
We don't need anymore massive scripts heh.
backpack weapons would be cool
Actually, we/you have part of the backpacked weapons script in. It's the plyrnum script. All you would have to add is the biped and the rest of the script.
Well, AR shader?
Well... I'll ask yohan about that. I remember it being hella-long last time I looked at it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
^ This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corvette19
mb anti aimbot script too? pleasee
impossibleQuote:
Originally Posted by tythespy
A man can dream
Supposedly Korn knows how but eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyon's Sister
Btw don't add a new script just for the map to break again. :|
What are you talking about guys? What is this stuff?Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
Edit : O backpack weapons... means you carry the 2nd weapon on your back like in H3? Hmm.. I didn't saw how it looks in CE yet... anyway, if this means custom H3 biped, I'm not sure.. I like classic style biped... + it would mean more work for the engine to render these weapons..
backpack weapons look good for smaller weapons and longer weapons
http://hce.halomaps.org/images/files...59-30-98-1.jpg
But with fuel rods and other big weapons it kinda looks....bad
(picture from halomaps.org)
Is there a version of the script that uses the halo 1 biped? I'm sure someones added the backpack markers to the halo 1 biped.
Yes there is. http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=2523
Edit: Also, all the bipeds in the sync room will have bots locking on them all the time.
Double Edit: http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=3406
Has a "aimbot breaker," never tested it, but it looks like it randomly teleports bipeds all around the map.
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Originally Posted by chrisk123999
Would have to remove the "MP Anti-Cheats","Sound Pause Menu" and other extras from it, but it looks promising.
-e thought their was something called "aimbot faker" that did the same thing.
You don't have to use all the scripts from it. It's just a collection of some scripts.
Horns is the only aimboat breaker we need.
no, i caught more botters then horns >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by tythespy
also i dont mind back pack wreapons, but its something extra the engine has to render, like yoyorast said...
keep it clean
that script kirby made won't stop all aimbots. like I said, impossible to stop aimbotting :I
It doesn't work right. Not only that but due to the double biped problem, if used, the script would make people lag like no other.
The beta should start in about a hour.
There's a map out there that aimbots don't work on, I forget what it's called though. It's a fairly small snow themed map, the Devicator doesn't work on it either.
The game doesn't really have that much to render for yoyorast island. It's not as many pollies as you guys all think. Adding backpacked weapons shouldn't make it any harder for your computer to render.
Yeah, but still there's really no point to add them, and the lower poly the better, even if its still not that much. Plus there is the risk of something else breaking, so I think you're better off leaving it as is.
Also the spartan laser.
Better leave it as it is guys.. It might be done for good this time.. let's not deal with some potential complications..
It's a very simple script. It can't complicate it at all. Also, what Splazor? In the recent builds I've only seen a pp where it used to be.
It only shows up on certain game types.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
How about modify the backpacked weapon script to turn off when optimize map is turned on?
:neckbeard::woop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
:iamafag:
Didn't yoyorast say he didn't want that added to his map.
It barley adds any pollies. I like it.
get outQuote:
Originally Posted by tythespy
K , let's try it then.
I totally missed that post. :ugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by tythespy
I still don't like the H2 teleporters. Why are they there? It doesn't fit with the Halo 1 theme of the map.
Does it matter?
They are there cause I needed to add some paths leading to panic room... to make it more frequented... adding these tele was the only way to add tele without remodeling (adding more polys etc..)Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
FREELANSER MAN, come to AIM plz , it's going to be time we need your hosting man.. thks
It's normally better to have it as part of the BSP then using scenery. Plus, it's not like you are on the limits of maximum BSP size. You far from it.
The H2 Teles stay. It looks more modernized and you can enter it from any direction.
I can get it on higuy's server if you want. It's no different from FaglancersQuote:
Originally Posted by yoyorast
Ye, would be cool... just make sure to disable any app plz..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyon's Sister
Uploading map to the server and shit. I suggest you prepare your heads to be shot.
put on your qq caps people
Just finished reinstalling CE, I'm good to beta.
How is it "better" to have them as part of the BSP instead of scenery?Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
Also, drop the whole "h2 teleporters don't go with the theme of the map". This isn't your map, it is Yoyorast's, and he likes the teleporters the way they are right now. You have voiced your opinion on the matter, now stop bringing it up.
Real Light maps. Faster Rendering. Better collision. Easier to manage. Better portaling.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowSpartan
