"Halo 4: I Get a Woman!" - Sgt. Mjr. A.J. Johnson, RIP

The Jackals weren't the problem in Halo 2. It was the Elites, especially since a single plasma rifle could fire at the same rate as a stationary plasma gun (the little purple ones) and they often had two. Combine it with tissue-paper-for-shields and...welp.

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The Jackals weren't the problem in Halo 2. It was the Elites, especially since a single plasma rifle could fire at the same rate as a stationary plasma gun (the little purple ones) and they often had two. Combine it with tissue-paper-for-shields and...welp.

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Dude I thought the Drones were the biggest pain in the ass. They could be anywhere and Plasma Pistols/Needlers hurt when it's 10 of them at once. Elites in Halo 2 Legendary were just too intriguing for me to be pissed by them. Outskirts had so many good Elite encounters because it had so many varieties of them in that one level alone.

Don't forget the Brutes walking damage sponges from The Gravemind onwards.

i never understood the frustration with brutes in halo 2. you just cap them in the head with the carbine, right? 1 or 2 shots to remove that little headpiece thing, then one more to finish them off. most of my difficulty came from vehicle battles and elite's shields.

i guess thats the problem ive always had with halo on legendary. youre basically forced to use a plasma pistol and a headshot-capable weapon throughout the whole game, because most of everything else just isnt effective, or doesnt last long enough (rockets, sword). its kind of upsetting when there are only 2 or 3 effective weapons in a game 20+ weapons to choose from.

at least in halo 1 i can think of a good use for every single weapon. halo 2 is pushing it, and most of the single hand weapons in halo 3 are absolutely useless. looking at you, magnum. it gets a little better with the online, but its still mostly dominated by the BR or DMR, followed by the shotgun, sniper rifle, and rockets.

i believe the term for what this leads to is "first order optimal strategy".

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i never understood the frustration with brutes in halo 2. you just cap them in the head with the carbine, right? 1 or 2 shots to remove that little headpiece thing, then one more to finish them off. most of my difficulty came from vehicle battles and elite's shields.

i guess thats the problem ive always had with halo on legendary. youre basically forced to use a plasma pistol and a headshot-capable weapon throughout the whole game, because most of everything else just isnt effective, or doesnt last long enough (rockets, sword). its kind of upsetting when there are only 2 or 3 effective weapons in a game 20+ weapons to choose from.

at least in halo 1 i can think of a good use for every single weapon. halo 2 is pushing it, and most of the single hand weapons in halo 3 are absolutely useless. looking at you, magnum. it gets a little better with the online, but its still mostly dominated by the BR or DMR, followed by the shotgun, sniper rifle, and rockets.

i believe the term for what this leads to is "first order optimal strategy".

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It wasn't so much that the Brutes were difficult individually as it was if they were in a cluster, went berserk, or were in Vehicles. The vehicle segments and berserk moments made me rage so hard.

Quarantine Zone on Legendary was also a huge pain in the ass.

Funny I just played outskirts on Legendary. I beat the Campagin once on legendary then was never bothered to play any of it again on that difficulty. The only ones I can actually have fun on are Outskirts, Delta Halo, and Uprising. The rest were just annoying as hell.

Outskirts?

I always sped through that level. Get to the blind skull spawn at the start (not to pick it up but to be up there), roofjump to the sword, roofjump to the first loading zone, run to the ghost and boost through the rest of the level, preferrably with an empty sword as my secondary and a BR as my primary. Next level, I have an infinitely-charged sword and am pretty much set.

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i never understood the frustration with brutes in halo 2. you just cap them in the head with the carbine, right? 1 or 2 shots to remove that little headpiece thing, then one more to finish them off. most of my difficulty came from vehicle battles and elite's shields.

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Yeah um.. once you get to the Brute missions there's little to no reason to carry a PP from that point on. A carbine takes out brutes easily from a distance, and Needlers/Sword are effective against both them and Elites.

Carbines were my weapon of choice against Brutes in close quarters like hallways. Even in a pack, you just spam at head level and you'll most likely kill most of them. In more open areas, the Needlers reigned supreme.There was nothing that a single long burst from dual Needlers would not kill, save for Hunters. RIP, dual Needlers.

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Yeah um.. once you get to the Brute missions there's little to no reason to carry a PP from that point on. A carbine takes out brutes easily from a distance, and Needlers/Sword are effective against both them and Elites.

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oh yeah i forgot about the dual needlers. those were ridiculous. but still, thats just halo 2, and even then, whatever headshot weapon you were using is still just as effective on brutes. move into halo 3, where they reworked brutes to have shields, and a plasma pistol will serve you through the whole game except the flood parts.

I just used the shotgun on Brutes in Halo 3 because there was always one available.

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whatever headshot weapon you were using

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So, the Carbine then :downs:

Seriously... anyone else notice how the BR and Sniper disappeared nigh completely halfway through the game?

Yeah, that was pretty upsetting. I can handle the whole range of weapons, but I still prefer the true blue UNSC ordinance that I've come to known.

Wait, which game are we talking about?

It's pretty hard to contrive reasons to have UNSC weapons deep in unkown territory toward the end of these games when the UNSC forces are toast. But it would be cool to have a UNSC-only (or Covenant-only or Forerunner-only) weapons skull. But apparently, they are fucking married to the skulls that Bungie arbitrarily came up with 5+ years ago. It's almost like they hard-coded them into a very sensitive part of the engine.

Double post because fuck in-bred fucktards. It's getting hard to earn perfections with my allies betraying me once a game. Last game, some asshole ran me over when I was ten kills in. It's like there's a switch that gets thrown every time I set out to accomplish something and it causes some rediculous effect that takes hold of my team and forces them to act like clueless fucking idiots. Goddamn.

I'm not mad that it happens, no. I'm mad that it happens damn near every game. :maddowns:

EDIT: Wow, way to let me save edits the first time vB.

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But apparently, they are fucking married to the skulls that Bungie arbitrarily came up with 5+ years ago. It's almost like they hard-coded them into a very sensitive part of the engine.

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Well, AFAIK, the only ex-Bungie programmer at 343i is Greg Snook (animations). However, 343i has been around in some fashion since at least 2009, and the engine can't be THAT hard to figure out when you have the source, so it's not like they have an excuse for sensitivity about not adding more skulls.

I'm holding off on complaining until H5, though. I mean they don't even have skulls in SPOPs, so, in my eyes, I think they didn't rate skulls in general to be that high priority, other than not breaking what Bungie already had in place.

The H4 credits (in the first minute, not didn't wait for the obscure everyone-else credits) list 65 total engineers (animations, MP, sandbox, infrastructure, etc), and some of them were listed as non-343. That's 65+ engineers inheriting a working codebase. :shrug:

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Outskirts?

I always sped through that level. Get to the blind skull spawn at the start (not to pick it up but to be up there), roofjump to the sword, roofjump to the first loading zone, run to the ghost and boost through the rest of the level, preferrably with an empty sword as my secondary and a BR as my primary. Next level, I have an infinitely-charged sword and am pretty much set.

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Well we all know the shortcuts;) but I played through appropriatly just to absurve the encounters.

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Wait, which game are we talking about?

It's pretty hard to contrive reasons to have UNSC weapons deep in unkown territory toward the end of these games when the UNSC forces are toast. But it would be cool to have a UNSC-only (or Covenant-only or Forerunner-only) weapons skull. But apparently, they are fucking married to the skulls that Bungie arbitrarily came up with 5+ years ago. It's almost like they hard-coded them into a very sensitive part of the engine.

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Didn't stop Bungie before when they dumped ass-loads of random weapons and ammo in Assault on the Control Room and Silent Cartographer, and there shouldn't have been that much on Keyes either.

Oh man, ammo placement.

I was kinda tired of having to grab all the useful weapons from crates by the end of halo 4...there really should have been some sort of middle unit between Knights and the dog-things; something that could reasonably use rifle-type weapons, but wasn't an insane pain in the ass to fight (seriously...did anybody else notice how fucking fast knight shields recharge on legendary?!)

Perhaps on my second run-through of the campaign (on an easier difficulty) I can actually test out this supposed brand-new AI for the knights; all I really noticed was that they'd sorta hop from side to side and run to cover any time I tried shooting them. I /guess/ that one Watcher (or whatever they're called, the little flying guys) I threw a grenade at did pick it up, but I really couldn't use any fancy tactics on Legendary like the demo videos did.

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Oh man, ammo placement.

I was kinda tired of having to grab all the useful weapons from crates by the end of halo 4...there really should have been some sort of middle unit between Knights and the dog-things; something that could reasonably use rifle-type weapons, but wasn't an insane pain in the ass to fight (seriously...did anybody else notice how fucking fast knight shields recharge on legendary?!)

Perhaps on my second run-through of the campaign (on an easier difficulty) I can actually test out this supposed brand-new AI for the knights; all I really noticed was that they'd sorta hop from side to side and run to cover any time I tried shooting them. I /guess/ that one Watcher (or whatever they're called, the little flying guys) I threw a grenade at did pick it up, but I really couldn't use any fancy tactics on Legendary like the demo videos did.

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I suggest Heroic: the Knights will give you a run for your money and everything can still royally screw you over if you're not fast to react. Normal is way too EZ and it feels too slow IMO. I've also noticed that in general the more stamina/health/power you give an AI the more it keeps itself open to attack and the less it goes for cover. In Heroic, Knights teleport like mad and most AI go for cover/regroup pretty fast if they remotely feel unable to win.

Legendary, Tilt and Catch.
Try that combination on forerunner and see how much of a man you are.

You're on, but only after I beat Halo: Comat Evolved for XBox on Legendary with Legacy Southpaw controls and inverted aim. I feel like torturing myself today.

EDIT: It's like plugging in an etch-a-sketch for a controller. Also, the only reason I stopped to edit this is because an ally's frag blew us up in the first airlock encounter. Apparently being betrayed is a universal trait of mine. :ugh:

What the fuck, how do people figure this shit out.

What a cocktease. All that work and you can only keep it for that little itty bitty battle. Can't take on the Liche. Can't clear out sniper alley. Come on guys: keep melee'ing until you get that sucker into the rest of the level! Melee is the new grenade jump.

wait--the pelican had a SPARTAN LASER!? Shit, how'd I miss that?

Second--so the pelican you drive at the end isn't some special unique vehicle for that encounter? I expected it would be...

third-- happy page 343

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss


http://argibi.deviantart.com/#/d5otfac

http://kornnersoftware.com/images/boner.png

I lol'd pretty hard, not gonna lie, because that's what I was thinking the whole time. :realsmug:

Also, someone needs to make meme faces from Halo 4 because there could be SO MANY OF THEM.

Get. Some.

He certainly got something.

I love doing that with those idiots who try to turn a corner and sticky you.

Promethean vision ftw. You camping? I see you! Grenades lol.

Extraction is like a badass version of Terittories. Why isn't in matchmaking yet?

If you guys checkout my fileshare, for a film called "Flood 1.021", you can catch a glimpse of the shape of things to come. Special thanks to Limited for helping me verify things.

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If you guys checkout my fileshare, for a film called "Flood 1.021", you can catch a glimpse of the shape of things to come. Special thanks to Limited for helping me verify things.

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Korns trying to get fileshare banned again? :D

Glad to help test, loving the changes so far.

Too lazy. Just post a Youtube video of it.

jk

How do I Fileshare on Halo 4? I know for past games you could just go to Bungie.net and queue downloads from the player profiles.

Too lazy to setup my Pinnacle. Your loss

Just tried out the flood variant with Korn; it's pretty damn cool.

I can record it tomorrow if you want.

U WILL RECORD TONIGHT :maddowns:

about to do a team regicide modification

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U WILL RECORD TONIGHT :maddowns:

about to do a team regicide modification

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My internet cut out there when we were waiting on you :( But I wanna check out the regicide change when ya make it

I just played it with General Doom. Set the player scale to 2 and the damage resistance to 1.5x the normal amount (since they're a bigger target). We noticed that they don't apply the player scale trait to the kill cam (where they just basically play back the player actions), but the weapon backpacks will still be as if you are the larger size. Hologram also doesn't keep the scale trait. Probably is a sign that they didn't do much testing of the player scale trait.

I uploaded the flood and CTF games from earlier. Need to eat, but if a few people want to get on later for some of the modified regicide/ctf/flood (or something else), I'm down.

So my Xbox fell over with the game running inside it -_-. I ran over and caught it but it still fucked up my disk. I can't play the level forerunner at all, and all the per-rendered cut scenes have no folly sounds or music:(

That CTF match... I was in awe when I saw Korn grab the flag.

So, one question: Are you limited to how high you can set the player scale or can you set them as high or small as you want?

I think we should call it MarioCTF

Too bad the head of the flag can't be switched with a mushroom heh


There are limits, but the lower and upper boundaries are both pretty much unplayable.

Lemme know if you ever need anything else recorded. I always have my capture device hooked up.

Get on XBL right now, and maybe we can get a game going

I've been on Viva Pinata. GT: Hardstyle Miku

Heh, I just realized that was the game where we were trying to get the last man standing to assassinate one of us (as I increased the LMS assassination speed). However, that one LMS guy who's name starts with a D wasn't in the party right then. Then that round ended and we like like "okay, we got D in here now we can do it". Expect Nne then joined the game during the last round and became the LMS. And he wasn't in the XBL party. So we didn't get a game with a good assassination shot :saddowns:

edit: add me, kornman00, I'm in the process of making some tweaks

Heh, whoops. I was unexposed to mods in Halo 4 until then, so I was genuinely fearful for my... character's life. :/

Watch out for spartans in tiny tricycles.

Woah, woah, woah, back up!

http://puu.sh/1ILeS.png

FIRTH?! Before you say anything, that's a "one". I double checked to make sure I wasn't seeing things. That's a "one" with a "th" after it. Firth. OKAY!!

Firth is better than first. Duh.

I thought you'd be taller

thanks your video gave me permanent motion sickness

Youtube's "your video looks funny, want us to fix it?" should explain WHY THE FUCK IT LOOKS FUNNY and WHAT THEY FUCK THEIR DEFINITION OF "fix it" IS.

Twas not like that on upload. Re-uploading another one, this time without youtube "fixing it"

edit: reup'd it and fixed the post above to use it instead

like i said, youtube's auto correct should be relabeled "fuck shit up mode". i have yet to see it fix anything.

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I thought you'd be taller

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9:51. Best part. And 10:31.

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Youtube's "your video looks funny, want us to fix it?" should explain WHY THE FUCK IT LOOKS FUNNY and WHAT THEY FUCK THEIR DEFINITION OF "fix it" IS.

Twas not like that on upload. Re-uploading another one, this time without youtube "fixing it"

edit: reup'd it and fixed the post above to use it instead

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it works well with everything that isn't videogames; it's actually quite impressive with shakycam.

But yeah they really should explain what the hell they do and when not to use it

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Youtube's "your video looks funny, want us to fix it?" should explain WHY THE FUCK IT LOOKS FUNNY and WHAT THEY FUCK THEIR DEFINITION OF "fix it" IS.

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I was uploading a music video for class and it gave me that same notice. That basically translated in my brain "Want us, Youtube, to fuck up your video?"

I want to play with you guys :C

GT: TearShade

Maybe we can get a larger group going this weekend. What time is good for you slackers?

Anytime you catch me online. I don't think I have plans so it's a good long span of Xbox Live for me.

I have a swim meet until maybe 5 PM Central, so Saturday night or all of Sunday would be good.

Let's try shooting for Saturday night then. say around 6PM EST?

Good for me.

I'll play for sure. I'll have to leave around 11:00PM EST though.

Yo, I have a question: How is it that I can play a match, get twenty (20) kills, avoid death the entire match, and not get a perfection?

I'm calling BS. Is it only on certain gametypes or what? I-I-I just don't.... :I

I'm pretty sure perfections are only possible in Slayer. I think that's how it's been in the past.

It's only for slayer.

Did the host quit and you go into black screen?

Can anyone get me some screencaps or reference shots of the Lich? I've been eager to model this thing but I don't have a 360HD so I can't view games i've played.

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I'm pretty sure perfections are only possible in Slayer. I think that's how it's been in the past.

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It's only for slayer.

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How remarkably un-awesome. :v:

This is the only Halo I've played where the enemy doesn't know how to shoot back in objective games. I guess it's back to sniping from the towers on Ragnarok then.

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How remarkably un-awesome. :v:

This is the only Halo I've played where the enemy doesn't know how to shoot back in objective games. I guess it's back to sniping from the towers on Ragnarok then.

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Lol you serious? I racked up around 30-40 kills almost every objective game I played since Halo 3. For some reason, people lose the concept that dying hurts your team (some objective gametypes make it so you can immediately respawn in Halo 4, so this still applies) and since Halo 3 I have utterly gone most games uncontested half of the time because people don't realize I'm simply there to keep the flag carrier clean of bulletholes or rockets to the face. I think you and I are playing different games. Your experiences are totally opposite to mine. :v:

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Can anyone get me some screencaps or reference shots of the Lich? I've been eager to model this thing but I don't have a 360HD so I can't view games i've played.

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Well, there's no film support in H4 for anything other than PvP games. So even if you had a HDD, you wouldn't be able to watch your campaign game.

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Well, there's no film support in H4 for anything other than PvP games. So even if you had a HDD, you wouldn't be able to watch your campaign game.

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Has the support been completely stripped out?

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Lol you serious? I racked up around 30-40 kills almost every objective game I played since Halo 3.

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Without dying, clearly.

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For some reason, people lose the concept that dying hurts your team (some objective gametypes make it so you can immediately respawn in Halo 4, so this still applies) and since Halo 3 I have utterly gone most games uncontested half of the time because people don't realize I'm simply there to keep the flag carrier clean of bulletholes or rockets to the face.

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My job is usually keeping the flag in its stand. Some people just don't play defense and I grew tired of hearing, "Flag stolen." Plus, with five players a team we can actually afford to defend the objectives.

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I think you and I are playing different games. Your experiences are totally opposite to mine. :v:

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Yes, because I don't play while high.

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Has the support been completely stripped out?

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I haven't investigated. While it would be interesting in checking it out and possibly hacking such support back in, I don't consider it that interesting or worth while of a venture.

While looking into the player information values for a TTL guy comparing movement values across all the different games, I noticed that the player representation information element for elites is completely empty. So elites in MP have been completely stripped out.

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I haven't investigated. While it would be interesting in checking it out and possibly hacking such support back in, I don't consider it that interesting or worth while of a venture.

While looking into the player information values for a TTL guy comparing movement values across all the different games, I noticed that the player representation information element for elites is completely empty. So elites in MP have been completely stripped out.

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reason I asked is I wanted to know whether the omission was the result of the engine having issues with a side effect of 343I's level design or whether the film editor had been stripped out intentionally for campaign and spart-ops.
I know 343I mentioned they may "fix" the theater in the future but that's pretty much the same thing bungie said about DLC for ODST.

Well, when you think about it, the Theater is explicitly under Wargames...it's an awkward setup for them to have it there if they ever do intend to have it for campaign too.

Another glitch found, this time on Adift:

How does he know about .vehicle? :tinfoil:

He mapped for HCE

inb4 he has no girlfriend, owait.

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He mapped for HCE

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Holy shit he did those maps and also was pals with Guru? Haha, I love randomly seeing what a lot of the older mapmakers peeled off to do after HCE. I still wish I knew what happened to Jahrain. He was an inspiration for me. :smith:

FFFF Now my xbox won't read my disc at all. Does anyone who has the game installed to their console know if it will run the full game with just disc 2 inserted to the tray? If so I'm gonna by a USB.

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I still wish I knew what happened to Jahrain. He was an inspiration for me. :smith:

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What do you want to know? He's doing more programming oriented things now. Last I saw he was really getting into shaders and lighting for a game he and some other people were developing. He asked me to help out with some art but I didn't have the time back then.

Looks like he put up a demo reel about a year ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GWHSwEKbE

I came across what appeared to be his LinkedIn a while back. He didn't accept my connection, so he probably abadoned it or didn't realize who I was

Sound off if you're planning on joining the For Reals Custom game tonight (a little bit after 6PM EST)

So far I count the following people on record:
Myself
ThePlague (TearShade)
ODX
CabooseJr
NneYe

To give ODX time to get back from his meet, I'll be setting up the variants on my Xbox starting around 6PM, so the fun and games proper might not start until around 615pm-ish.

If someone wants to make a Valhalla, or other large open map, variant with ALL the vehicles placed and maybe an array of swappable armor abilities, that would be helpful for later shenanigans.

I made and uploaded "Ragnarok 1.021" to my fileshare. All vehicles and armor abilities are there so we can try everything out.

Well, it's nice being informed last minute. :v:

I'm leaving for Topeka at around 6:00 (Central; GMT -6) tonight which means maybe half an hour of playing Korn's customs. :ugh:

Well you could always send a clone :downs:

I could join in.

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What do you want to know? He's doing more programming oriented things now. Last I saw he was really getting into shaders and lighting for a game he and some other people were developing. He asked me to help out with some art but I didn't have the time back then.

Looks like he put up a demo reel about a year ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GWHSwEKbE

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That's pretty cool, definitely funny when I recognize all of those maps and a lot of content he used for the reel. I'd simply like to meet him and thank him for open-sourcing his content so I could learn from it both technically and morally.

I might be a little bit late. I got some stuff to take care of before I can join in.

Finally, some fucking news of Forge in MM, Grifball, and team doubles (comes after Frank's :words:): http://halo.bungie.org/halobulletins/80

So I got an Easycap today:


It's kinda shitty quality, but better than nothing. Especially for 10 USD.

That's pretty cool dude. I used to have a capture card, but that was about 5 years ago and now it's corrupted/no-longer-functional. Fascinating devices, not so much how they do it, but the end result.

Played damn near perfect 1:1 remakes of lockout and the pit yesterday. Loved em. Hope to see them in MM

I'm going to start doing commentaries on this crappy game.