Those in the libary would be prrety sweet.
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Those in the libary would be prrety sweet.
Will this make any use of Open Sauce? Or is the release time of open sauce too late for it to be in an initial release?
No sauce as far as I know. We just want to get this done.
lolQuote:
initial release
I believe Masterz has said numerous times that he won't use Open Sauce in SPV2.
BCE, on the other hand... :-3
its been said quite a bit that they arent.Quote:
Originally Posted by lone wolf
they could pull a rabbit out of their hat but they have said it pretty solidly.
I like the sound of that :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
CMT did make a splazer this time around right?Quote:
Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
Ya i think they did.
Afaik they haven't taken it out. So yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathen
CMT does have a Spartan Laser. Didn't you see Leet's video about the laser?
I just figured out what afaik means.
And okay. Sweet.
I did see it. That rrrrrreally long one of splazer after splazer.
Idr though, did it go through vehicles and enemies or just hit them?
Polar pretty much explained what I had in mind for the Sparrows on library. They are the most powerfull unit in the game, but I have a few idea's to make them fun for the player to fight against. They can fire 12 missles without reloading and their primary weapon in gauss cannons. These things are designed to pulverise any ground force.
this'n?
As far as I can see it doesn't go through players and vehicles.
The projectiles better be weakened...Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
if theres lots of cover (and its the library, so there isn't) and enoughhammer of dawnsspartan lasers then i see no reason why the sparrows would be unbeatable as long as the AI are well controlled.
Sparrow hawk on legenda-
*OWN OWN OWN OWN OWN*
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFF
This makes it sound as though we'll be put through some heavy Air-to-Ground sequences where we have to blow up tons of heavy armour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
And that's a bad thing? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Amit
Of course not
I WANT TO END THEMQuote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
Where did you get that idea from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
Looks great, but hows the fps?
I doubt I'd get more than 3fps, ona 9200SE
lawl
Nice work tho!
Holy shit your back!. Hit me up on AIM or Xfire or something. I doubt you'd be able to play it well on a 9200 SE though :-\.
Well that's comforting, I have a Radeon 9250.
And here I was going on thinking I would be able to play this on low graphics and get some enjoyment out of it...
Yea well...don't get your hopes up..unless you plan on getting a new card XD
I tested it on my rig, and got about 3-5 fps on average...but then again it is a beta, and probally isn't fully optimized..
My specs:
Duo Core 2 2.4 ghz
2gb of 533 DDR2
Radeon 9200SE
I have 2.16 ghz, ATI Radeon Xpress 200, and 1 gig memory...how does that compare to the specs above me? ^^
Can you even play regular Halo with that piece of crap?Quote:
Originally Posted by AAA
It's better but negligible.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrunkenSamus
Optimization? Hahahahaha.
I'm guessing that a Radeon HD4850 will run it better than well, yes?
Quote:
Originally Posted by KiLLa
that card is old as fuck, and is shit.
i lol'd ^
haha, I know this...
I've had this card for like 3-5 years XD
I could get x5 better on $50...but I'm broke, and spent all my money on my new motherboard and processor...
So a HD4870 with a core clock of 3.6ghz should run it quite fine eh?
um, yea you guys are cool...lets boast about our super insane cards mommy and daddy bbought for my b-day..that cost more than my rent is...
Anywho talk about a thread de-rail...
Lookin amazing, good job so far..
Is it exactly the same story wise, are there any twist aside from diff content?
Whos all still working on this stuff, like who does the team consist of?
My god, I remember back in the day when specs like that were the SHIT.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiLLa
Ahh, nostalgia.
Didn't know your rent was about $500, let me be your roommate, it'll be cheaper that way! =DQuote:
Originally Posted by KiLLa
Ok I'll stop.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...en/cmt_033.jpg
The hell is that device/object next to the greenbean. (the cheif)
"press the zoom key to zoom"
I lol'd
Oh that's a dead brute isn't it?
You'd be surprised what Halo can run on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amit
I have 256 mb of RAM
a 2.0Hz processor
and a Radeon 9250 with 128 mb of extra RAM.
I run it beautifully on 640x480 resolution and everything else on high.... Pathetic? Far from it.
It beats not having a computer at all.
:raise:Quote:
Originally Posted by AAA
CE can run on a P3 1ghz computer, witha Geforce 2 and 256 RAM.
Also KiLLa, it's just new content and area to explore, the story is the same.
anyways, trying to get back on track, did CMT ever fix that "dual wielding hunter", the one with the fuel rod on top the fuel rod?
also, I remember from SP v1 you gave some covie crates vehicle like aspects so they could be moved around, will that be put in for SP v2?
another thing, I recently saw my friends Xfire screenshots and saw he managed to obtain WITHOUT ANY HAX a transport hog on the PoA level, is that a left over or something that is there but should really spawn?
last thing, will that tank that was hidden in a30 in SP v1 still be there, I liekd it because it was out of the way and when you DID find it, it made the level abit easier (especially on legendary >.<)
We fixed that problem a long time ago, but then when we enlarged the hunters it happened again. It's no biggie.
Covie crate vehicles are only on b30 and a50 in some places, we just don't have the vehicle slots for them on the other ones.
The transport hog in POA was in SPV1 only, we cut out the entire hanger bay cutscene so we could ge tthe map and scripts to compile. In A10 we hit the limit to how many lines of script you can have in a map, as well as how many BSPs.
A30 is super tight on tagslots, but there are wraith tanks you can use instead. And TBH, mortar tanks are the best.
I didn't even know there was a limit....wow. How many lines was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
Masterz, I really think you should cut out some of those "extra hallway" BSPs in A10. There's already too much generic repetitive hallway combat in that level without you adding more. Being a huge fan of story, I really think the space would be much better spent on the intro cinematic. I just think you're shooting yourself in the foot.
There's a limit to the number of lines of script? Shit. What is the limit?
Is it literally "lines", or is it number of parenthetical statements, or parenthetical expressions, or what?
It may just be a limit on the amount of scripts and globals allowed, and not the lines.
So we don't get to hear Johnson's speech? :( It was so funny though...
Oh well, if it means more kick-assness that we can actually play in, i guess it's for the best...
edit: and do you want old PoS graphics cards?
ATI Raedon 7000. <-- mine (can't remember the amount of memory though, but I think it was 128 MB or something)
Johnsons Cockeyed speech was the best.
This ^ :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Oplawar
It just won't be reliving the fight without hearing about how Halo is a giant hula hoop
Men, we led those dumb bugs out to the middle of nowhere to keep 'em from gettin' their filthy claws on Earth, but, we stumbled onto somethin' they're so hot for, that they're scramblin' over each other to get it. Well, I don't care if it's God's own anti-son-of-a-bitch machine, or a giant hula hoop, we're not gonna let 'em have it! What we will let 'em have is a belly full of lead, and a pool of their own blood to drown in!...Am I right, Marines?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
best speech...
so no hidden scorpion? but wraith tanks? cool man, but still a bummer you cut the hanger
Well it's been cut, and it's not going back in. It's a pointless cutscene. Firs tof all, there are no warthogs, pelicans or tanks in it, we had to clear those out for the addition of even the most basic of new weapons and content. Then we have the new BSPs, which was orignally 12, but then we wre barely able to merge them into 8. The original map has 9 bsps, giving us a total of 17 bsps total in the map. By removing the hanger, we were able to fit them all in. Now ever if we were to revamp ALL the bsps and try to merge 2 more of them, so we could include the hanger, we still have the issue of scriptspace, which our new bsps toally maxed out. By removing the hanger cutscene, we have enough scriptspace to do whatever we want. It also allows us to have acess to more tagspace, as we can go in and delete alot of custom animations required for that cutscene.
So even if we found a work around for all that, take a look at the cutscene. You have no vehicles in it, the hwole thing is marines wa ving and signaling vehicles that don't exist. Then you have the Johnson speach. In Halo 1, Johnson isn't even a real character. He has 0 role in the story, his character is just a marine. You have this 3-4 minute long cutscene, which has nothing to do with the foward ation of the plot or the universe. What we have isntead now, is Keyes saying "Let's give our visitors a warm welcome.." To which Cortana says "I've already begun." It then cuts directly to the crewmen opening the cryotube, and you jump right into the Chief's story. When the game it was an important cutscene to show you what the game had in store for you, and to give you an idea of just what the univrse was about. Flash foward 7 years into the future. It's no longer important.
If someone can find a work around, that would fix all our roblems other than cutting the bsp and the cutscene, I will be glad to hear it. But as far as I can see, there is no realistic way for it to be included.
For those who havent heard the speech, here it is.
Sauce? Korn?Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
We will not use Sauce in our mod. Not now, not ever. Hell, none of you even have any idea what it een does anyway.
Adds tag groups and script functions.
Two things that CMT can't even use in the singleplayer remake. :haw:
roboplawar (4:59:41 PM): You cannot remove that speech
roboplawar (4:59:51 PM): I know it by heart
roboplawar (5:00:02 PM): it is so awesome
Masterz1337 (5:01:56 PM): so then what od i do
roboplawar (5:02:15 PM): well, if nothing else, you could put it in a different location
roboplawar (5:02:31 PM): without hogs and pelis and whatnot
roboplawar (5:02:49 PM): but, it just wouldn't be the same
roboplawar (5:03:02 PM): you could get rid of one of your dialogue variants
roboplawar (5:03:21 PM): and as I've been saying, trim one of the superfluous BSPs
roboplawar (5:03:49 PM): drop bisenti or someone, and drop the extra hallways, and bring back the hangar and all the tags you need to fill it
Masterz1337 (5:04:26 PM): arteen hates the whole extended cutscene too
Masterz1337 (5:04:30 PM): so he wont do it
roboplawar (5:04:34 PM): well arteen can go suck a brick
roboplawar (5:04:45 PM): tell him he has to cause it's his job
roboplawar (5:05:00 PM): that's one of the most important cinematics in the game
Masterz1337 (5:05:04 PM): why
roboplawar (5:05:12 PM): granted, everybody who will be playing already knows everything
roboplawar (5:05:12 PM): but
roboplawar (5:05:17 PM): it's the exposition of the POA
roboplawar (5:05:30 PM): it explains that the pillar of autumn has a massive ground force stationed on it
roboplawar (5:05:47 PM): it explains what the halo is
roboplawar (5:05:53 PM): it gives the characters motivation
roboplawar (5:06:18 PM): it gets the player excited about being a part of this
roboplawar (5:06:29 PM): it shows you you're not alone
roboplawar (5:06:46 PM): it explains why you're not alone
roboplawar (5:06:54 PM): it's one thing to have random marines in hallways
roboplawar (5:07:19 PM): it's quite another to see a massive hangar full of marines and equipment and go "oh damn, look at that, it's a fucking army"
Some of the stuff going into SPV2 has me blown away, but then again, it's a modification the object of my devotion and as such, when I disagree with it, I really disagree. I hate to see my favorite parts of the game dropped because they were "unimportant" or changed to something less amazing because "we want to be different." :(
glad to see you dropped the part of the convo where I said even if we did chop down some bsps, we still have no more scriptspace to re-enable the cutscene.
Glad to see you did that with that quote in your signature, too. Although, that conversation and Rob's was pointless, so why bother?
I have an idea, instead of making it a cutscene, why not make it like a room where he's briefing soldiers, that you can walk by right after the cryo bay?
We can't go in and modify original BSPs. Not to mention it makes no sense if you're giving a pep rally while aliens are shooting up your crew.
I like it FRain has a good idea.
Well, the bridge was perfectly fine, why can't you have them in an unused room that's locked up?
I kinda think thats a stupid idea too. The aliens werent on yet and as soon as your even able to walk around on the ship the aliens are shooting shit up. Why pep talk then when the shit has already hit the fan?
E: And damn! The source rep looks awesome.
Good enough for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
And frain, I kinda think thats a stupid idea. The aliens werent on yet and as soon as your even able to walk around on the ship the aliens are shooting shit up. Why pep talk then when the shit has already hit the fan?
E: And damn! The source rep looks awesome.
um...whats the big deal..the cutscene is one of the most unimportant ones in the game, wasn't that great to begin with, and was novelty from the start...
remember it IS a MODIFIED campaign...why keep EVERYTHING the same?
I say away with the pointless cut scene, hooray for new cool stuff!! YAAA
But it's the cutscene that shows how 5the marines are badass motha's, who won't take not crap out of nobody. :(
mon
It's not even badass, it's just stupid. It was like KiLLa said, a fun novelty at first. It's been 7 years, if it means that much to you, youtube it. I could really care less about "atmosphere" in a mod that's mostly about kicking ass in as many ways and places as possible. That's not to say I don't care about it at all, but to even put in one hour of work for a lame speach is not worth my time.
So play Halo PC if it's THAT DAMN important...
Your missing the WHOLE point of a custom campaign obviously..
Yet, you've put in years of work for something that will be played for about 8 hours, if it's a longer campaign, maybe ten.
Ah, well, I never seemed to see that cutscene much, anyways.
Also, Heathen, lag induced double post?
Cutscene is stupid, I skipped the fucker anyway.
Lets say your walking along the street to your destination, someone is singing on the sidewalk, who is singing terribly. Would you rather keep that person there for atmosphere or get rid of them.
No point in having it in if it's been stripped of all it's oomph.
Actually, it will take far more than 8 hours to beat. my best guess is 12 or 13. We've put alot of work into it, and with all the weapons and vehicles, you can easily get a new expiernce even on you 4th or 5th time playing a level. We've also done things with the encounters so they will behave differently each time you play. Sometimes carbine elites will replace PR ones, othertimes brutes will spawn in a different location when the last time you played it was a pair of elites in a other location. It's really dynamic, and even though I was responsible for this it took me the longest time to get use to have a new expierence each time, and sometimes my own encounters still do take me by surprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingRain
To be honest I never even saw that cutscene until my 3rd playthrough of the campaign. It's not as vital as you think.
What if you made it into the intro for the game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
Like, turn it into a bink video, and edit in some SPv2 footage, then at the end have it fade into an awesome logo screen
Would be badass tbh.
omg your failing to see the whole point..it's just not worth the man hours to make it possible to see something WE HAVE ALL SEEN countless times..
I'm not sure how halo 1 works, but make a separate map for the cutscene? Im just throwing ideas out there, I know for a fact this in Halo 2 would work
That's been mentioned before.Quote:
Originally Posted by leorimolo
The last thing we want or need is another large map file that has to be distributed.
New video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HIYVrudtts&fmt=18
Youtube seems to have butchered my voice though.
I say cut it really.
E: That was about the cutscene.
Also, are those damage indicators place holders?
EE: its fucking fantastic.
I love the stuff. Thanks alot. I came ants.
"Nothing beats a barbecue."
Let me know when it's done and you'll have my campaign hours.
Yeah they take up a large part of the screen. Nice video also, looking forward to it :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathen
Were the long green line things like... the carbine shots?
Ugh, the sun is still a square. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
lol, it's been fixed now actually :p only took how many years?
I like the vid..
altho your voice quality could be better, I like how you went through and explained alot of the changes, just wish I could reek the benefits of all this, god damn 9200SE :|
how's my 512mb 2600xt going to fare?
Man....if you guys are worried about having problems I will D:
amirite? Check my spec's plz
I disagree, but in the end it's not like I really give a shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiLLa
E: watched that video, you guys actually made the shade turret seem cool <_<
Now that I watch it again, those carbine contrails or whatever look ooky.
I think they should have less black in them, make them fade a lil faster, and have them a little more clear.
It was a shader malfunction. They were set to alpha blend
B-E-T-A guys. Beta
Speaking of a beta, I'm still waiting :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
Theres not really any point in critiquing the vid. They play their own beta, I'm sure they know pretty much any little issues you can point out.
My parents? Buying me anything computer/video game related? Will never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiLLa
Anyways, onto topic, the video is pretty awesome, I enjoyed seeing how well the mod is doing. Oh, and you have a sexy voice.:)
postin from my iphone. At a wedding and wondering if theirs updates.
Words of Wizdom.Quote:
Originally Posted by ironclad
There still are people working on the project. :ssh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathen
looks nice. keep it up.
I require footage of a sniper rifle.
The sniper is ingame, but the scope screen isn't cooperating. Until I can get it working, there won't be much seen of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeeKup
Yes, I am hurrying to do that.
xD impressive, the larger encounters look like a very promising new aspect of the game, seeing that the marines actually know how to fight. Great work, also the rockethog with supressing fire. I think the game play is shaping out to be amazing, gameplay should always be the most important part when making a mod, it gives it replay value, and controls how fun it'll ultimately be, visual effects are nice sure but the gameplay is where its at. Also lol at flying bodies from being run over.
E: I jus hope I can actually run the game.
Your voice reminds me of someone that would be on Bungie, lol. So far it's looking really good, it should be a very interesting Campaign.
ATTN laggy:
I believe you said you did the AR's bolt movement in the overlay because you couldn't get it to look right in the fire animation. I thought you should know, I found a pretty consistently successful way of timing the frames so it works nicely ingame. Because using the overlay for it just looks sloppy IMO. Let me know if your interested