Prop 19 - Legalize, regulate, and tax marijuana in california

[Timo]

It'll be interesting to see how weed legalization will move around the world if this bill (?) goes through. You can grow a shitload of weed in 2.3 square metres ._.

[thehoodedsmack]

As I suspected. Even if it passes, it still conflicts with Federal law, so really I have no idea how they intend to keep the DEA from bum-rushing the state.

Does anyone know what time the results will be available? It was supposed to be voted on today.

[t3h m00kz]

According to NORML, this will make marijuana completely legal, as depicted in the proposition, which is pretty plain and clear. Not sure about the details on the federal law.

polls closed at 8. People are still in line to vote. Results soon.

http://www.stickam.com/normlshowlive

Live coverage by NORML.

If this passes I'm having a few fucking beers. ... WA state :C

[annihilation]

It's not gonna pass.

[ICEE]

Prop 19 shot down

46% yes
54% no


to be honest though, I consider the fact that it was even on the ballot as a victory. That means that people are actually thinking about it.

[CN3089]

wrap it up marijuanailures

[Dwood]

If ANY court allows this bill to pass over the Federal laws that exist, it means that state laws voted on by the people trump Federal Laws, which opens a whole slew of lawsuits or new laws (Arizona Law anyone?)

[thehoodedsmack]

If ANY court allows this bill to pass over the Federal laws that exist, it means that state laws voted on by the people trump Federal Laws, which opens a whole slew of lawsuits or new laws (Arizona Law anyone?)

I'm not even sure they can allow it. I wish I knew more about American legal process, but it definitely doesn't seem like it should even be possible to have a citizen-voted bill overrule federal laws. It almost seemed like people were fooling themselves, thinking "Nah, it's cool, if it passes, weed's legal", without any consideration to how federal laws come into play.

It's the same thing with states that have legalized medical mrihuana, Just because the local authorities don't prosecute, doesn't mean the DEA can't or won't come in and take you to federal court/prison.

[sleepy1212]

they've had something similar in Oregon (Wa too?). basically the Feds try to bust you but the State won't help them. The Feds don't really bust users as much as they track dealers and organized trafficking. Without local law enforcement it's not likely they'll catch a lot of small time use-growers.

[Cojafoji]

I'm not even sure they can allow it. I wish I knew more about American legal process, but it definitely doesn't seem like it should even be possible to have a citizen-voted bill overrule federal laws..

It's a question of the enumerated powers of the federal government as set forth by the tenth amendment. All powers not specifically laid down in the constitution or following amendments are to be inherited by the states as reserved powers. The real problem is the national regulation of the CSA (controlled substances act) which allows the federal government to lump a lot of drugs/meds/plants etc in one big group that the government can legally tax (and in most cases restrict the ability to pay the tax, therefore making it illegal).

Honestly, this is a US Supreme Court case in the making.