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    Re: Halo: Cryptum

    As far as I can tell, the Engineers are very adept technicians, but they are not scientists, philosophers, writers, or artists. To deduce that a bunch of seemingly random symbols on a rock is actually a set of galactic co-ordinates takes an imagination.
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    Re: Halo: Cryptum

    Quote Originally Posted by Warsaw View Post
    As far as I can tell, the Engineers are very adept technicians, but they are not scientists, philosophers, writers, or artists. To deduce that a bunch of seemingly random symbols on a rock is actually a set of galactic co-ordinates takes an imagination.
    Don't forget in Contact Harvest it was an engineer which created the tractor/chopper from the insides of one of the drop ships.
    They're also considered to be biological computers which have some connection to the Forerunners, Infact I'm reasonably sure scratch that certain they were created by the Forerunners.

    The Huragok that are now employed by the covenant were discovered and gathered from many extant Forerunner facilities, Initially by the San Shyuum and later by the Covenant proper.
    Though not specifically designed for assignment within habitable zones, all huragok currently engaged have been recovered from M Class facilities.
    It is inspiring to see one of the builders most humble creations has survived through the Dark times of Post-Activation.
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    Re: Halo: Cryptum

    Again, creating the Brute Chopper was the Engineer having something to fiddle with. Looking at symbols on (in?) a rock doesn't give them anything to fiddle with. They learn impossibly quickly if they can play with whatever it is they are studying. Even if they are living Forerunner computers, it doesn't rule out the possibility that they are very good technicians and not much more. A computer is only as good as its software, so to speak. On the flip side, it doesn't prove me right, either. I just think it's a reasonable explanation as to why the Covenant didn't go rushing to Installation 04 as soon as they recovered the rock from Sigma Octanus IV. That, and their little device had Reach painted as a huge gold-mine of Forerunner "artifacts."
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    Re: Halo: Cryptum

    They're artificial life. Not workstations. It doesn't really take imagniation, but the ability of deduction. Go learn about neural nets in the topic of AL.
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    Re: Halo: Cryptum

    Quote Originally Posted by Kornman00 View Post
    They're artificial life. Not workstations. It doesn't really take imagniation, but the ability of deduction. Go learn about neural nets in the topic of AL.
    That's what I was getting at.
    If these Engineers were from M class facilities [assuming M means Military or medical it may be that the engineers had previous experience with the symbols.
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    The only books I like to consider canon are Contact Harvest, Fall of Reach, The Flood, First Strike (kinda sorta, although it's an alternate timeline everything else mostly makes sense and sticks to the laid down facts), and Ghosts of Onyx to some extent. I like to include Ghosts of Onyx because it gives me hope that not all of the Spartans got fucked up, and that some are still unaccounted for on deep space missions and stuff.
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    Re: Halo: Cryptum

    Quote Originally Posted by Kornman00 View Post
    They're artificial life. Not workstations. It doesn't really take imagniation, but the ability of deduction. Go learn about neural nets in the topic of AL.

    Deduction is a process and can at times require an imagination. I have yet to see them, in any media, figure something out that wasn't hands on. They are artificial life, sure, but as an example not all life on Earth has the cognitive capacity that humans possess. Sentient? Definitely, but with limited capabilities.

    Maybe they did have previous experience with the symbols. Perhaps the Covenant elected to not even show them the symbols because they believed only the Prophets could decipher them. We may never know.
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    Re: Halo: Cryptum

    Didn't engineers in ODST write forerunner symbols over some walls? So that probably means they've seen them before, and most likely know what they mean. Though that's not a proven fact.
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    Re: Halo: Cryptum

    According to Halopedia, Engineers are a race of biological supercomputers created by the Forerunners : http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Engineer

    I dunno, I just thought that the page there could help clear a few things up
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    Re: Halo: Cryptum

    Quote Originally Posted by Delta4907 View Post
    Didn't engineers in ODST write forerunner symbols over some walls? So that probably means they've seen them before, and most likely know what they mean. Though that's not a proven fact.
    Very true.
    Considering the Engineers came from Forerunner facilities and were created by said Forerunners it's very possible that they knew what the symbols had mean't.
    I mean who here would not understand 23X43 in real life navigation? [protip: Grid 23 by 43]
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