Quote Originally Posted by Pooky View Post
I never came remotely close to saying that anywhere.
You implied it. You said Goldeneye came first. That has absolutely no relevance unless it also served to influence the game you are comparing it to. In the case of Quake (I or II), it didn't. I should not have to spell this out for you.



Um, seriously? Keycard collection is not the same thing as 'blow up this computer or kill too many civilians and you fail the entire mission with no chance of recovery'. I'm getting the feeling from this that you really didn't play Goldeneye much at all. I suggest you go do so.
Button pressing also in Quake I. Besides, accidentally blowing something up and ending the game because of civilian casualties is literally no different than accidentally shooting the red barrel next to you and ending the game by killing yourself.

Like I said, plot vs. play mechanics. I suggest you take a step back and understand that concept.