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    Re: If I Were A Halo 2 Vista Developer

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick
    1. No Insults.
    2. No Demands.
    3. Clear and Concise.
    4. Your Viewpoint.
    5. No Expectations.
    6. Reply (to existing issues).
    The term "common Sense" is a misnomer because it is not so common after all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dole
    these are experienced people getting paid to make a decent (modest terminology) port of an existing game
    What you fail to realize is that that they are also under the direction of the company, in this case Microsoft, to deliver what Microsoft deems an acceptable product: One that fits their overall marketing strategy for games for Windows Live. That may not be what you specifically think is an acceptable product. Only Microsoft can make the determination of the game's success or failure in the market they chose to peruse. You and I are not privy to that decision or plan. All we can do is register our dissatisfaction by keeping our wallets closed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conscars
    Editing Kit does not provide enough in various areas
    The CE community is based on the idea that we can express ourselves through this hobby.
    Quite frankly the Halo CE community, as zealous as they are, are not the primary market for this game. The HCE community is very small compared to the buying public. I can pretty much assure you that complains about the editing kit will fall on deaf ears. I bogged about it http://h2v.halomaps.org/?nid=411 in a rant on the Halo 2 Vista Maps website. There are valid business reasons to not allow as much freedom in the editing kit as with Halo CE.
    Quote Originally Posted by YCH
    While I agree that whining won't help the situation, it certainly is, in many cases, warranted when it comes to Halo 2 Vista.
    Caveat Emptor my friend, which is Latin for “Buyer Beware”. Whining in public is never and option. Which is not to say that you now allowed to dislike or disagree with something in the product, however full scale whining is more an indication that you didn’t do your homework and research the product before you bought it. Marketing people generally disregard the opinions of those who whine. They do, however, respect non-insulting, clear and concise, logically reasoned opinions of and about the product. And that is the point Nick is making.
    Quote Originally Posted by jahrain View Post
    Nick of all people calling us jerks for insulting and disrespectful posts? I feel disrespected and insulted
    In my opinion, this response is not warranted based on the subject and point of the thread. I am not going to try and play mediator between you and Nick because I haven’t the stomach to research the source of the animosity that has built up between the two of you. All I know is that in the few threads I have read here you two have been sniping at each other like an old unhappily married couple. Quite frankly it does not do justice to either of you.

    The term "common Sense" is a misnomer because it is not so common after all.
    Quote Originally Posted by ejburke
    I can still hate every last Microsoft product manager, right? Good.
    Only after you have met them all There was this one particularly statuesque young lady with an enchanting smile I am sure you would not want to hate.
    Last edited by UXB; June 19th, 2007 at 11:18 AM. Reason: one last qute
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