Quick-Crit 2008-2009

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Originally Posted by disaster

I made them so they can be baked into the diffuse. The spec and normal won't go into CE. Also, I didn't unwrap it, I'm not sure who did.

E: Also, Advancebo, Your Barrel makes me unhappy

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I find it ironic that your barrel is also shit. I'm going to take a stab here and say where the seams meet up, its mirrored, isn't it. The "streaks" look terrible, the sticker looks slapped on, theres no real detail, it's just grunged red and erased on a layer above what looks like flat grey. No rust, no decay streaks or peeling paint, where your rings are, the detail makes no sense at all, you have a sort of gaussian amount of wear and tear which also makes no sense. It's quite obvious you slapped on a grunge brush or something to get your details, because it doesn't look how it should. A better job could be done within 20 minutes.

Looks good to me

No crit for me?

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Originally Posted by rentafence

Looks good to me

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Besides the fact that it looks chalky, undetailed, monotoned, the so called paint looks more like concrete, the streaks look like bad paint strokes rather than streaks, and doesn't actually look like a barrel?



And chains, I don't think you wanna hear my crit. Besides I'd just be repeating myself.



Use mine or bungies as a ref if you have to, i'll send you a dam jpg of my textures, just fucking fix what your doing, because your details aren't covie at all, and they look like a sketch. Stop using your mouse or tablet to do those details, because your drawing skills aren't up to the job. Use the pen and line tools.

Also, do each layer of height on a seperate layer. Deep parts, blacks, bottom layer, whites and absolute highest points, top layer. Anythign else inbetween. The selection tools are probably the most useful things in photoshop tbh.

Ok, thanks, also the reason it looks like a sketch is because the scale for the head on the unwrap requires me to use a 1 pixel brush to make those seams, those seams on the helmet are literally 1 pixel in width on the unwrap.

*achoo*

Mark V Armor FTW

also is the coloring from the UV map or is it the omnis?

Omnis.

Dane, people appreciate the crit but can you refrain from calling it shit? That's unnecessary and untrue. His barrel isn't bad and it's definitely not shit.

Its better than my shiz

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Originally Posted by ironclad

the hand movements when he goes back to grab the grip don't look very natural to be honest. it looks a little too flowy. When he pulls the magazine out, it doesn't really look forceful, and there could be a bit more time between mag out and mag in. I like the animation overall though. Where did you get the rig?

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Oh, sorry, didn't see this post. Thanks for the crit, and I just kinda searched around on fpsbanana.com for rigs, and models, and that kind of stuff.

Did a little work, still need to get the fucking highlight on the upper heatshield lined up... thing is a pig to do. Will begin on the stock once that's done, I think.

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/m.../ma5bflat2.jpg

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Originally Posted by rossmum

Don't do what the big devs are doing these days. They're all getting excessively lazy and putting no effort in, relying on normals, spec, and God knows what else to make things look good. If you look at some of the diffuses that end up in games these days, they're more or less just flat coloured. It might be easier and some people might actually think it looks better, but it's a bad habit to get into because if you do need to rely on the diffuse alone later on, you're fucked.

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just.... no.

dude.. the diffuse is SUPPOSED to be nothing but flat colour, that's what the fucking thing IS FOR!

It depends on how well the engine handles lighting, and exactly how plain the diffuse is. If the engine has brilliant lighting then yeah, leaving that up to normals, specs, etc. is fine but to call out an example, I refer you to the HL2 Ep 2 sniper and autogun. Both (so far as I can tell) rely heavily on the engine for lighting and detail, and honestly both look too much like plastic. Even though painted lighting doesn't always match the environment, I'd rather have that than matching lighting which looks like shit and kills all the detail. The other thing though is when people literally make it almost a flat colour with no differentiation at all, fancy advanced lighting or not you need some variation on the diffuse.

On another note,


Tweaked according to Snaf's crits over AIM, looks a lot more pre-loved now

Why do you have so many scratches where those segments join and not on the top where they should be? You're also going to add some detail to the part behind the ejection port right? The top would look good as a lighter colour too btw, not to make it look too much like the H3 AR but just to break up the monotony of it right now.

Because bungies original AR uvws are fucked, thats why. The top is stretched like a 12 year old at a gang rape.

:lmao:

But yeah, pretty much what Dane said. I'll probably add some detail to the arse end later on before I start on the stock and grips, been at it all morning and then playing Halo all evening. I need a bit of a rest.

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Originally Posted by DaneO'Roo

Because bungies original AR uvws are fucked, thats why. The top is stretched like a 12 year old at a gang rape.

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ROFL, Sig'd.

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Originally Posted by DaneO'Roo

Because bungies original AR uvws are fucked, thats why. The top is stretched like a 12 year old at a gang rape.

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It's not stopping him from doing the back two segments.

no, but consistency is

e/ if you mean the heatshield. the rear receiver will get scratched up too, don't worry

shameless bump

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/m...structures.jpg

;o

not bad tbh

I like the bottom base alot. The back of it looks kinda like a coffee travel mug with a weird lid :P

I'll probably draw up some more later. One of the things which always draws me back to Halo is the stunning beauty of the Forerunner environments, and while I've been meaning to make a map for some time I kept giving up because I didn't have any real objective. I still haven't got a set-in-stone ground plan, but I definitely know what I'm aiming for now, and I want to get this done.

I was having trouble capturing the 'feel' of Forerunner architecture, but then I threw the Halo 3 OST on and it all became clear :-3

Must...model. ill brb

Quick design I drew in 5 minutes of an infantry elite, wanted your opinion on the design and where I should go with it.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...otype1copy.png

That helmet looks like it belongs on someone rather high up the chain, really

Maybe zealot?

Yeah, or High Council member

Well I have high council and chancellor designs being worked on, so I will probably go with zealot.

Aren't the zealots supposed to have big headdresses?

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Originally Posted by ExAm

Aren't the zealots supposed to have big headdresses?

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http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Zealot

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Originally Posted by ExAm

Aren't the zealots supposed to have big headdresses?

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No, but Honor Guards are.

The silver elites with the large headdresses aren't honor guards, though. What are they?

E: Councelors.

Silver are Ultra, if they look like the red honor guards, there called Ultra Honor Guard or something like that

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Originally Posted by Advancebo

Silver are Ultra, if they look like the red honor guards, there called Ultra Honor Guard or something like that

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No. Ultras =/= Elites with large headdresses.

Ma first texture
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...ust_barrel.jpg

yah yah it sucks, to much sponge i thing

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Originally Posted by Advancebo

Ma first texture
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...ust_barrel.jpg

yah yah it sucks, to much sponge i thing

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Can you at least try to type properly?

Also, if you know it sucks, why post it...?

I barfed D:

Looks like somebody wiped diarrhea all over the fucking barrel.

^this

Experimenting with bump, specular, and illumination maps. I have never used any of them before.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5066/renderao0.jpg

I made this design a while back, so it's not anything great.
And I stole the background color scheme. You know who you are.

Looks cool. I don't know a damn thing about the in-game quality of it, but I find it visually pleasing. A few of the tight parallel edges could be spaced a bit more, though.

In before Dane's crit...


I like it though... looks good.

looks neat.

Passable for a low budget old-engine game.

Back at it again. Completely new model.



I'm using another person's model as reference for the thumbstock part of it since my old one had loads of smoothing errors. This one is finally nice and clean and pretty. I actually intend to finish this one (Ross, please don't murder me D:).

BTW, that smooth part was a BITCH.

[quote=Advancebo;320685]Ma first texture
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...ust_barrel.jpg



Looks way better than the screencapped one. Just work on variation and make it look realistic :D

The only time you use that much sponge is when you're making galvanised surfaces. Lose the contrast on that layer and work in some (credible) grunge and damage. Don't use blobs of solid white, make full use of blending options, layering, and brushes as well as selection and brightness/contrast. Damage should be grey or silver, never pure white. And for Christ's sake, do something about the lighting. Unless this is meant to be next gen and you're going to add normals and such in later, it needs shadows and highlights.

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Originally Posted by Invader Veex

Experimenting with bump, specular, and illumination maps. I have never used any of them before.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5066/renderao0.jpg

I made this design a while back, so it's not anything great.
And I stole the background color scheme. You know who you are.

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I know who I am :P

Also, the basic pattern flow is decent, but if it's intended to be forerunner, it's not really getting there at all. The bump and soft spec is pretty nice though.



Add more interest on the shapes and also just as importantly, in between the cracks,

Well I decided to expand on the assault type and flight type helmets to create a chemical assault elite, design is still in progress, thought I might post here on how to improve it. Basically has an arm mounted cannon that spews out charged plasma, using the crystals that load a fuel rod gun, it just grinds them up into a powder and spins it at high speeds, and the friction between the pieces gives it a charge. It then spews out the fine powder/ gas which reacts with the air and explodes outward, blowing the deadly gas as far as 120 feet and the burning plasma 250 feet. Generally used to clear out encampments, they wear air tight, non corrosive suits special designed to fight in the deadly gas, with infrared sights to see through the smoke. Any crit would be nice.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...prototype1.png

Dane, that is fucking incredible ._.

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Originally Posted by DaneO'Roo

I know who I am :P

Also, the basic pattern flow is decent, but if it's intended to be forerunner, it's not really getting there at all. The bump and soft spec is pretty nice though.



Add more interest on the shapes and also just as importantly, in between the cracks,

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Holy shit, I just soiled myself. Is that supposed to be a side effect of looking at your skins?

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Originally Posted by rossmum

Dane, that is fucking incredible ._.

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Originally Posted by Hunter

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Dane, that inspires me to return to work on some of my old forerunner projects. Arg, if only I had the time!

Dane, that sucks cock and furthermore you should stop using photoshop.

Get that ingame and show it off D:

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Originally Posted by DaneO'Roo

I know who I am :P

Also, the basic pattern flow is decent, but if it's intended to be forerunner, it's not really getting there at all. The bump and soft spec is pretty nice though.

Add more interest on the shapes and also just as importantly, in between the cracks,

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Thanks, man. I'll remember that. I would rep you, but I can't. D:

Geez dane.

Beautiful.

I'm thinkin hax.

Damn, Dane that is amazing...

Dane, apply to a professional studio. That's all I have to say.

dane next time you work on a texture like this, record it please. I wanna watch how you did this....

damn

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Originally Posted by kenney001

dane next time you work on a texture like this, record it please. I wanna watch how you did this....

damn

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Seriously . Hot damn. I need a new fucking pair of pants now dane. You owe me one for my pants. :eyesroll:

Dane, or anybody that can answer this, how does one do symmetry in Photoshop? Because it seems that forerunner textures are heavily dependent on it.

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Originally Posted by MetKiller Joe

Dane, or anybody that can answer this, how does one do symmetry in Photoshop? Because it seems that forerunner textures are heavily dependent on it.

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I wouldn't mind knowing this too.

It's like, the main reason I haven't touched photoshop for more than 20 minutes :|

copy - paste - flip

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Originally Posted by rossmum

copy - paste - flip

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I make a corner of it, canvas size by 200% and copy, paste, flip

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Originally Posted by Invader Veex

Experimenting with bump, specular, and illumination maps. I have never used any of them before.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5066/renderao0.jpg

I made this design a while back, so it's not anything great.
And I stole the background color scheme. You know who you are.

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Wow veex I really like that. I wouldn't mind seeing more than just a gradient in the background though. Something to sort of define what it is. The design of it almost looks like it could be the overview of a passable BSP

Just threw this together quick, so the corners aren't completely lined up. I'll eventually change it too a different color so it don't look like a rip-off of Dane's. Just sipmple lighting effects in photoshop.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4...effectska6.jpg

Much better. Could use some darker patches (holes perhaps) inside the cracks too and line the portions up better, but it's a huge improvement already.

we can all take a lesson from dane... :)

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6745622
^This

and

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6748991
^This.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...odels/agoh.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...dels/aoghs.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...ffftfffsss.jpg

Ignore the cliffs directly to the left of the cyborg in the second picture.

Meh. Looks good to me.

Cliffs look pretty good, though the paths are a little too perfect. Mix them up a little.

Looks like it'd make a good desert plateau sort of area, kind of like the leadup to the Cartographer on the Ark.

/agree with ross, also the edges of the paths are very sudden, just a simple chamfer could make it look better.

It looks too...artificial. The cliffs are good, yes, but everything else needs some work. Like Ross said, try to mix things up a bit.

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Originally Posted by Reaper Man

/agree with ross, also the edges of the paths are very sudden, just a simple chamfer could make it look better.

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Mass said the same thing, but I'm really trying to avoid that and instead cut the polygons on the cliff and make the intersection with the snow on top less hard edged and a little more smooth. The chamfering really fucked up my edgeworking and triangulation :(

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Originally Posted by rossmum

Cliffs look pretty good, though the paths are a little too perfect. Mix them up a little.

Looks like it'd make a good desert plateau sort of area, kind of like the leadup to the Cartographer on the Ark.

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I see what you mean by too perfect and Ill try to fuck around with that a bit to see how much I can change it. Now that you mention it I also see the resemblance to that level, but I'm really aiming towards a winter themed map. Really lets me do a whole lot more with particle systems, gameplay (using ice) and adding some funky reflections to the ice.

Sandstorms and glassed patches are cool.

And original.

I need to know if my terrain modeling sucks ass or is on the right track. I'm using Gmax, so don't bitch at me about rendering. Tell/show me what needs improving and what is working.







Top View


Left View


Front View

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Originally Posted by LinkandKvel

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6745622
^This

and

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6748991
^This.

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*cough cough*

I like the first one. Second one is a little repetitive and annoying though. Please tell me you haven't come up with a rap for this.

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Originally Posted by Sever

I need to know if my terrain modeling sucks ass or is on the right track. I'm using Gmax, so don't bitch at me about rendering. Tell/show me what needs improving and what is working.

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I like it... I think having it not smoothed gives off a bad look... So I would look in to that... but I personally think it looks pretty good.

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Originally Posted by NuggetWarmer

I like the first one. Second one is a little repetitive and annoying though. Please tell me you haven't come up with a rap for this.

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No.......at least...not yet :downs:

@Sever It doesn't look bad but fix triangulation or you could do that at the end and remember you can't walk up a 45 degree angle. Keep it up!

Yeah, I noticed that a few parts are stretched oddly. I'll go back and fix that before I start on the third section. I already completed the second section and it looks much better than this one, to me at least. If I get this map completed, you guys are going to be confused and hopefully amazed with how I've restructured one of the all-around best H3 maps.

Elaborate. :maddowns:

Nope. You'll just have to wait for more info on it.

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Originally Posted by selentic

Mass said the same thing, but I'm really trying to avoid that and instead cut the polygons on the cliff and make the intersection with the snow on top less hard edged and a little more smooth. The chamfering really fucked up my edgeworking and triangulation :(

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I know that sorta stuff happens, I didn't literally mean use the chamfer tool, I meant create a chamfer.. because that's what it's called.

Oh hahahah my bad.

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Originally Posted by Sever

I need to know if my terrain modeling sucks ass or is on the right track. I'm using Gmax, so don't bitch at me about rendering. Tell/show me what needs improving and what is working.

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Looking good. Much better than what you showed me on aim the other day, although like has been said, some of the triangulation needs fixing. That and a couple of areas that have some funny stuff that needs to be fixed.

20 minute shoop for the lulz
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/e...sti-cat-ed.png

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6747285

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6746120

Awesome tunes ^

Your music always reminds me of marathon. I like it.


E: Do a cool remix of this song and I will love you forever

Rather the second one.

Nuggets Thompson model with my skin. Still a major WIP though. Need to fix up the metal, add a few more things, touch up the wood, paint better normal maps and spec maps.

Theirs alot I dont like about it.

Texture-wise and model-wise.

Like I said. Its nowhere near done yet.
Model is near perfect to a real Thompson. A few minor inaccuracies.

E: I'd really like to know what to add and what to fix.

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Originally Posted by disaster

Nuggets Thompson model with my skin. Still a major WIP though. Need to fix up the metal, add a few more things, touch up the wood, paint better normal maps and spec maps.

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Textures look alot better than I could do. Wood looks fake but the metal looks on-point.