ATTN: We liek mudkips

As some of you may already know, we (Zteam; Myself, Choking Victim, and ShadowSpartan) have been working on a campaign mod (how original ;p). The project actually started back around February of 2005, well before even CMT's SPv1 was even in concept. It began to progress slowly at a first, starting with the content (which most of you have already gotten a taste of with out public beta releases in April of 2007). The actual campaign modification portion didn't start until a couple of months ago. Since then, we've made some considerable progress:

Halo (a30):











Props to Choking Victim for doing pretty much all the cosmetic changes that you can see.

The Silent Cartographer (b30):
You can't have it now. ;p

A great advancement in our work and soon the entire Halo CE community was the "figuring-outing" of script extraction by CV and Shadow. With this, we were able to break most of the barriers we have encountered previously in our possibilities of adding in any real cool stuff.

*cough cough*


So, anyways... with our SP progressing, we have also been working on MP.

Yeah, we heard you; PB3.

Among the many maps we're making, these are the one's we're chosing for PB3:

Containment:






(we might release a super special edition of some maps with elites :d)

Relic:
No pics for you either. D:<

... and of course, Coagulation and Sanctuary.

Our content has and is currently undergoing some heavy changes, namely our weapons.

Beam rifle:


Everything else:







http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/i...sbeam_fire.jpg

Most are still pending an overhaul.

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Oh, also, some pretty skies that I converted that don't fit anywhere else in the update but I want to show them anyways. <_<







they might show up somewhere...

... so yeah. We're NOT dead. D: Expect a PB3 soon (not saying how soon ;p) and our SP shortly (read: much longer) after. That concludes our update that I couldn't bother putting any effort into. <3


Off to bed, 'night.

http://hiv.h2vista.net/hivshack/imag...1ae736f6c5.jpg



also, looks nice :D

Wow, very nice work. But I dont like the repeated repeated textures textures thing goin on in a30, namely the gound textures. And one other thing. Can someone please kill that Coag map? Please? The textures set a really ugly mood. Everything looks like its washed out and browned. :blech:

Oh, also, you can kill the birds. ;p They explode in a bloody mess too.

=] Very nice job.

Z team gets my Halo2 them mp maps :D (pariah and advent) as well as my custom elite fp arms/hands.

Have my babies please KThxBai

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Looks, very, very nice!

Kick ass!!!!! I'm liking the animations! :D

Lookin pretty good. Although I have to admit I got my hopes up when I read campaign mod, cause I misinterpreted that as meaning a bit of competition for BCE. Nothing like competition to spur you on, eh? Speaking of, /newthread

wow, i have to admit, that looks pretty darn good.
more than i'd have expected from you lot.

Is that a hopefully less buggy and better working scarab I see there? If its an enemy. well.......FUCK YES

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Originally Posted by Haloking365

Wow, very nice work. But I dont like the repeated repeated textures textures thing goin on in a30, namely the gound textures. And one other thing. Can someone please kill that Coag map? Please? The textures set a really ugly mood. Everything looks like its washed out and browned. :blech:

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those repeating textures are really unnoticable when your on the ground playing, but it it becomes much of a problem, ill try and fix it.

That grass texture looks absolutely fucking fail. Other than that, nice work.

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Originally Posted by n00b1n8R

don't repeating textures eat FPS?

also, where the fuck would there be an area large enough to handle a scarab fight in H1? mb where you get the last banshee at the end of 2 betrayals, but I can't think of anywhere else O_o

also, if you have the POA fly over like In amber clad or regret's ship in H2, that'd be fucking epic :O!!

Can we expect H2 style lock-on rockets?

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me and l33t had a method of scripting it so if your looking at an occupied vehicle you can lock on, but if your looking at a biped it wont lock on. idk if we're still doing it , but most likely.

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I meant that as well as having to physically lock on (not just looking at the vehicle, but holding down the trigger.)

actually, the PP kinda does that so it shouldn't be that hard right?

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l33t accomplished that a long time ago, and included the moving reticule and beeping sounds and whatnot.

God damnit, CAD, why do you ALWAYS have to post pics? Now I need a bucket.

No, I need a bucket because I creamed. D:

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Originally Posted by Archon23

Is that a hopefully less buggy and better working scarab I see there? If its an enemy. well.......FUCK YES

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100% scripted. None of that kill-the-driver-then-you-can-use-it bullshit.

wow those textures are gorgeous. the animations are pro as usual, and OMFGBIRDS!! thats awesome

edit: also, why does everything i want show up on this forum?(elite hands ftw)

I'm still gagging at that "grass" texture. A30 otherwise looks REALLY nice

Grass looks odd, but other then that, A30 looks better that way, it looks like no one has been there in a very long time.

forget about coag for fucks sake...

horrible map, and there are what... like 10 versions out already?

destroy it and release something else.

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Originally Posted by baturkin

forget about coag for fucks sake...

horrible map, and there are what... like 10 versions out already?

destroy it and release something else.

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FINALLY someone agrees with me. Also, the new maps look like sex. There is boarding aswell?

Fugly :haw:

Love the sky. :awesome:

better or worse? i just got rid of the darker places that made it noticably tiled.

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Originally Posted by n00b1n8R

I meant that as well as having to physically lock on (not just looking at the vehicle, but holding down the trigger.)

actually, the PP kinda does that so it shouldn't be that hard right?

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Arf.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

better or worse? i just got rid of the darker places that made it noticably tiled.

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dude, if it wasn't for the fact that it's in that window, I'd think you took a pic of some grass out side.

Damn, this mod is looking good. I've only been following it's progress since when, the beginning? I can't wait to see this be finished, especially the SP. What would you say the &#37; of the mod is done? Anyways, keep up the good work!

wow thats amazing. especially the characters and scarab. i so wanna fight that scarab. keep it up.

l33t you suck. you fail at life, start over.
<3 you guys

you got the image name wrong it should say "sex.png" not "a30.png".

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Originally Posted by NeiaG

wow thats amazing. especially the characters and scarab. i so wanna fight that scarab. keep it up.

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WHERE, might I ask, is this scarab that you speak of? I for one fail to see any massive four-legged Covenant mechanical walkers anywhere in any of the presented pictures.

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Originally Posted by sever323

WHERE, might I ask, is this scarab that you speak of? I for one fail to see any massive four-legged Covenant mechanical walkers anywhere in any of the presented pictures.

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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDestroy

*cough

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Ahem.

Also, regarding the second "cough..."

(http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/i...7/poacrash.jpg)

Why use that model when there's the h1 POA BSP you can use? :raise:
Or is not ripping against the law for your team :v

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

better or worse? i just got rid of the darker places that made it noticably tiled.

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Thats not the huge problem with it. The huge problem is this:



It doesn't look anything like grass. It looks like a green and dark green render clouds + sponge filter that got pixelated. It really is not a good texture at all.

It would make a nice rock detail map. For a main grass diffuse? You have to be joking.

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Originally Posted by teh lag

Ahem.

Also, regarding the second "cough..."

(http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/i...7/poacrash.jpg)

Why use that model when there's the h1 POA BSP you can use? :raise:
Or is not ripping against the law for your team :v

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Please note the word "BSP". (Actually, BSP is 3 words, Binary Space Partitioning, but whatever.) BSP=Many Polies. Many Polies=OMFG MY FRAMERATE!
Anyway, this looks better then SPV2! Been in production longer, so I guess I should expect it to look better.
New grass=WIN, as long as you do what D4NO suggested.
Containment=WIN.
Coag=PHAIL.

So the new campaign is coming out soon (Read: A LOOOONG time from now)? Like, how soon? By my birthday (1 week from tomorrow) soon? (Hopefully, but not gonna happen) Or by Christmas soon?

Oh, and use the Halo 3 Scarab model (If you can rip H3 yet, I think you can, I saw it somewhere). The Halo 2 one looks like a Basket. With legs.

lol yeah. liked the body not the legs

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Originally Posted by Jay2645

Please note the word "BSP". (Actually, BSP is 3 words, Binary Space Partitioning, but whatever.) BSP=Many Polies. Many Polies=OMFG MY FRAMERATE!

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I was referring to using the base geometry from Halo 1, even if it ends up depolied. Unless I'm mistaken, that model is from Halo 2 cinematics. I perfectly understand issues of framerate.

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Originally Posted by teh lag

I was referring to using the base geometry from Halo 1, even if it ends up depolied. Unless I'm mistaken, that model is from Halo 2 cinematics. I perfectly understand issues of framerate.

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You see, one of the problems with converting H1 BSPs for use is that they usually wind up royally screwed in Max.
Meh, just keep that version of the POA, you'll only see it up-close once the entire time, in a cutscene.

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Originally Posted by Jay2645

You see, one of the problems with converting H1 BSPs for use is that they usually wind up royally screwed in Max.
Meh, just keep that version of the POA, you'll only see it up-close once the entire time, in a cutscene.

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No, not really. I've never had any problems importing BSP models for later use - you must be doing something wrong. The only issues that come up when I recompile are collision/portal-related, which are irrelivant when making a .gbxmodel.

Please get your facts straight :)

That Scarab (thanks lag for bringing the link to my attention!) needs to be scaled down a lot to even be feasible at that location.

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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDestroy

*cough

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cough*

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NUH UH!!!! Oh damn that will look kickass when its done.

Hmmm "poacrash"

I DETECT EPIC. :awesome:

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Originally Posted by Archon23

Hmmm "poacrash"

I DETECT EPIC. :awesome:

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The Epic sensors are off the chart. In halo 3 the flood cruiser and High Charity crashing was epic, however thats halo 3. If done in CE, it would surpass those.

epictacular

Dano, its really the only thing that truly fits the atmosphere, it's used in delta halo as a mossy kind of jungle look. I agree it doesn't look like grass though, and ill try a few other looks and see how it comes out.

EDIT:

happy, slappy?

yes, thats much better, IMO.

well do you guys need some testers ?

Looks like improved H1 grass to me. Which is a great thing.

EDIT: ^ NO THEY DON'T!

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well do you guys need some testers ?

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No, not really.

OMG CANT WAIT THIS IS AWESOME!!!

They probably do need testers.

But you won't be one.

so when is this expected to be done? or has the date already been posted?

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Originally Posted by Masterz1337

They probably do need teters.

But you won't be one.

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lol no need to get cruel a simple no thx is ok xD


oh and are u ging to release any map soon ? ( soon=this 2 weeks)?:lol:

I was.

















Then you posted and changed my mind.

I saw the word "testers"... I was interested until Masterz said teters...

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so when is this expected to be done? or has the date already been posted?

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Well, date hasn't been posted, so when will it be done? Whenever they can get it finished, I'll approximate between next week and next year or two. =D

.......whoah......well how many levels are done?

EDIT: what about the flood and hunters? will they be halo 2 style?

the date things are released usually is set when things are almost done. since he didnt say he was almost done... probably no release date yet.





and is it just me or does this elite look particularly lean?

Oh, I also figured that this should be settled:

• There is no "fourth billboard" on Sanctuary
• There is no "gate" on Sanctuary

/spoilsport

Nice, Im surpised how you did this very well.

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Originally Posted by Vernancelet

Nice, Im surpised how you did this very well.

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well i know that masterzs already told me but i wanted to ask or and hear it from u cad taht i cant test pls dont be mad im jsut asking

Well you know theres a reason its called a public beta.........

beta kthx :protarget:

God DAMNIT, Greyl, stop posting like that! -repp'd.

So when do you guess this will be released? Ooo, just cant wait for target practise on birds :p
So what plans for weapons in SP?
Sorry for mentioning energy swords in the CMT tags, I still regret not having read the stickies:(
So will there be stuff like beam rifles, covie carbines, etc Halo2 weapons in SP? Great Phantom, though the Scarab looks a bit too thin.

lol ross, no it's not. It's literally copying one of the channels from the extracted normal map, copying it as a layer on the diffuse texture, and setting overlay blend to fakebump it, then going in with burn and dodge tool to make highlights and shadows to unfail the bitmap, then copying the guns specular map from the alpha of the diffuse texture as a new RGB bitmap then overlaying a greyscaled of the diffuse texture onto that, then overlaying the same normal map channel used earlier ontop of that, and making it coloured pink/purple and colouring things green and shit for glow and crap accordingly. The only people who know the amount of effort put into painting a model from scratch are the ones who've done it.

It's seriously like 10 minutes work in my eyes. Does look good though.

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lol ross, no it's not. It's literally copying one of the channels from the extracted normal map, copying it as a layer on the diffuse texture, and setting overlay blend to fakebump it, then going in with burn and dodge tool to make highlights and shadows to unfail the bitmap, then copying the guns specular map from the alpha of the diffuse texture as a new RGB bitmap then overlaying a greyscaled of the diffuse texture onto that, then overlaying the same normal map channel used earlier ontop of that, and making it coloured pink/purple and colouring things green and shit for glow and crap accordingly. The only people who know the amount of effort put into painting a model from scratch are the ones who've done it.

It's seriously like 10 minutes work in my eyes. Does look good though.

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yes.

but rossum does have a point.
just ripping gives you total crap.
it takes work to make it look decent.

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Originally Posted by rossmum

Not quite.

Ripping alone results in shit. The amount of work they've had to do to get them looking that good is almost comparable to just making it from scratch.

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Not at all, there's no real skill in "sexifing" H2 textures. Personally, I think all the shaders but the environments looks like :-\, but thats what happens when you use ripped content. What makes Zteam so impresive is the sheer amount scripts and animations to me.

My jaw dropped so hard it hurts.

L33T, ShadowSpartan and ChokingVictim; you guys are awesome. It looks great, and even though I wanted to make a long ass post of how awesome it is, I can't, but I can say it is awesome. Fuck :o

Also, that Phantom is so sexy, it gives Jessica Alba a run for her money... No wait it doesn't, nothing beats Jessica :v

Pics do alot of justice, but do we have a chance to see it in motion, other than the Beam Rifle?

i agree with that. id like to see other weapons in action, since the beam rifle is my least favorite weapon in h2. idk its model is just unattractive, impractical for a rifle. plus, why have a purple gun? anyways...

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i agree with that. id like to see other weapons in action, since the beam rifle is my least favorite weapon in h2. idk its model is just unattractive, impractical for a rifle. plus, why have a purple gun? anyways...

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Of course it's impractical for a rifle, because it's supposed to be a sniper rifle >_>

...And covies like purple.

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Originally Posted by rossmum

Could be something to do with the fact that the metal predominantly used by the Covenant is purple... then again, I'm just guessing.

:v

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Actually if you watch the remastered Halo cutscenes commentary on the legendary disc, you will hear that the main reason all the stuff is purple is because Jason Jones' favorite color is purple.

Very nice :)

http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/ <-- Ahaha :awesome:

This is the first time I've ever seen Halo 2 content look like Halo 2 content on Halo CE. Excellent job.

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Originally Posted by Love De Lux

Very nice :)

http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/ <-- Ahaha :awesome:

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some eye candy for you smarties trying to access our files :p

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

some eye candy for you smarties trying to access our files :p

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Some good eye candy at that.
Any more? :p

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Of course it's impractical for a rifle, because it's supposed to be a sniper rifle >_>

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DOY a sniper rifle IS a rifle. not all rifle's are fully automatic guns with massive clips. rifle= gun with long barrel(other than shotguns) and a sniper has a damn long barrel

what i mean is, the "barrel" looks like a spout or the end of a hose, and is waaaay to long in comparison to the handle, which is extremely short, with little to no stock. also, if it shoots particles, wouldnt there be no recoil? which could account for the lack of a stock, but the gun sure seems to recoil to me. in any case its ugly

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Originally Posted by rossmum

Could be something to do with the fact that the metal predominantly used by the Covenant is purple... then again, I'm just guessing.

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plasma rifle = blue
plasma pistol = gray/green
energy sword handle = silver/black
Frc= orange/silver
covie cruiser= gray/pink
carbine= purple
beam rifle= purple
armors= blue, red, green, orange, white, black

doesnt seem like purple dominates to me... but then again, im partially colorblind. people say ghosts and wraiths are purple, but they look blue to me.:rolleyes: i guess this means that beam rifles are made of something different and unusual?

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DOY a sniper rifle IS a rifle. not all rifle's are fully automatic guns with massive clips. rifle= gun with long barrel(other than shotguns) and a sniper has a damn long barrel. If it has a damn long barel it makes it damn accurate (which it is)

what i mean is, the "barrel" looks like a spout or the end of a hose, k and is waaaay to long in comparison no to the handle, which is extremely short, with little to no stock. k also, if it shoots particles, wouldnt there be no recoil? no which could account for the lack of a stock, but the gun sure seems to recoil to me. in any case its ugly no.





plasma rifle = blue
plasma pistol = gray/green
energy sword handle = silver/black
Frc= orange/silver
covie cruiser= gray/pink
carbine= purple
beam rifle= purple
armors= blue, red, green, orange, white, black
interiors of all of the walls of the covenant cruiser = purple

doesnt seem like purple dominates to me... but then again, im partially colorblind. k people say ghosts and wraiths are purple, but they look blue to me.:rolleyes: wraiths are blue, ghosts are purple. i guess this means that beam rifles are made of something different and unusual? no

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FTFY

Its not a Human weapon, so stop comparing it to Human weapons.

That first picture is so beautiful, it's hard to describe. Amazing work Zteam!

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FTFY

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USE ENGLISH DAMMIT. i dont know what ftfy means, and how would you know what theyre made of ?

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Originally Posted by FlamingRain

No, I need a bucket because I creamed. D:

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Did you mean: petri dish
:awesome:

:awesome:

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Originally Posted by ironclad

USE ENGLISH DAMMIT. i dont know what ftfy means, and how would you know what theyre made of ?

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1) FTFY means fixed that for you. 2)We could ask you the same question, so that wasn't very smart to ask. <_<

Also, it looks awesome (especially with better grass detail maps). :awesome:

Looks great guys, keep it going ;]

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

some eye candy for you smarties trying to access our files :p

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Elisha Cuthbert ? :-3

Also... where are gone Backwash, Tombstone, Gemini and Terminal ? I recall leet telling me that he fixed the Backwash's problem by putting ladders. :p

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Originally Posted by Love De Lux

Elisha Cuthbert ? :-3

Also... where are gone Backwash, Tombstone, Gemini and Terminal ? I recall leet telling me that he fixed the Backwash's problem by putting ladders. :p

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Of course Elisha Cuthbert :p. What Backwash problem are you talking about?

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Z team gets my Halo2 them mp maps :D (pariah and advent) as well as my custom elite fp arms/hands.

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nice, mb we will get to play on them XD lol j/k...

I still remember beta-ing your maps with like 4 people or so in early builds, good times, although most the builds I made sucked :lol: I'm so lazy when it comes to light maps and population, its so boring XD

anyway... that High Charity Sky conversion gives me action in the pants... :D

I love that freaking sky, so sexay lol

Nice work guys, mb i'll start playing CE again for it haha..

My computer has been in disarray for a while, I tried to reformat it 2 times, each time failed because service pack 2 keeps fucking up my computer (incompatible with my bios which is from like 2002, at least thats my hypothesis) and I have yet to do a reformat without doing a service pack 2 install since then, I'm going to have to find time to do it soon though.

just thought u all shud know, because I'm so amazing, rite :eyesroll: /sarcasm

Hurry for FP arms!
<Jumps for joy>
:(
I hit my hand on the ceiling ...

yeah i know this is a lil late but,
the left hand on the sword needs to be bigger
GET HIGHER RESO TEXTURES!
and the sentiniel anims are a lil off of normal set, othere than that its fine
GJ on the Beam Rifle anims, they're great!, just bring it just a lil closer to camera

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Originally Posted by lone wolf

yeah i know this is a lil late but,
the left hand on the sword needs to be bigger
GET HIGHER RESO TEXTURES!
and the sentiniel anims are a lil off of normal set, othere than that its fine
GJ on the Beam Rifle anims, they're great!, just bring it just a lil closer to camera

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Please learn to type, or don't post in this topic. As for getting higher res textures, they are taken directly from Halo 2. They are the same as what is in the game and you can't get any higher res than that.

2048x2048 textured ftw :awesome:

This looks amazing, I would totally rep you if it wasn't nulled

Although, the cliffs would look a lot better if there were a transitioning texture...

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Originally Posted by lone wolf

yeah i know this is a lil late but,
the left hand on the sword needs to be bigger
GET HIGHER RESO TEXTURES!
and the sentiniel anims are a lil off of normal set, othere than that its fine
GJ on the Beam Rifle anims, they're great!, just bring it just a lil closer to camera

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where are you seeing FP sword anims?

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Of course Elisha Cuthbert :p. What Backwash problem are you talking about?

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Leet had trouble with getting all the gravity lifts to work :confused2:

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They are the same as what is in the game and you can't get any higher res than that.

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And that is what Is limiting the mod. Halo 2s diffuse textures are often lower res because of the added bump maps make up for it. You guys really should repaint them. It's not that hard since the bitmaps are already there, you just.....paint over them.

I don't want my sukish computer (Which can run the ZMT MP maps still)
to be slower than it is when I hit an elite in CMT and my framerate gets murdered...

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Originally Posted by ironclad

where are you seeing FP sword anims?

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from sanctuary pb2 DUH
and so far, im thinking that leet didnt change any of the anims seeing that there is sitll the original anim he made for the sword

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Originally Posted by lone wolf

from sanctuary pb2 DUH
and so far, im thinking that leet didnt change any of the anims seeing that there is sitll the original anim he made for the sword

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please read the original post before jumping to conclusions.

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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDestroy

Our content has and is currently undergoing some heavy changes, namely our weapons.

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thank you