"Halo 4: I Get a Woman!" - Sgt. Mjr. A.J. Johnson, RIP

[DarkHalo003]

Rossmum post, go!

Can you tell the difference between a dedicated server or a live server without an indicator telling you it's dedicated? No. And what does being on PC have to do with it? If being on PC has any bearing on this, then please explain Modern fucking Warfare 3 and how it works on the console (but let me go get my popcorn first). There is absolutely no reason why joining a game mid-match should work here but be hard to implement on the Xbox given the exact same game. Match-making is essentially just an algorithm that automatically selects AN EXISTING GAME AND SERVER FOR YOU TO CONNECT TO. You pulled the above explanation out of thin air and didn't even pretend to analyse that statement before posting it.

I'm not. Hundreds, if not thousands, of games work perfectly fine out of the box without any sort of patching with mid-game joining. The bottom line is that they clearly didn't do a whole lot of testing to see if joining mid-game would cause problems, which it seems to be doing. They just stuck the feature in the game and hoped it would work. Well, it doesn't, and neither did trying to prevent people from leaving mid-match. Bungie, and as a result 343i, have dug themselves into a hole by trying to keep the game in the "competitive" category, which is ironic because now it can't be classified as such for the reasons Pooky mentioned.

I never said I don't expect hiccups. That aside, this is a problem that probably will be complained about for duration of the title's relevance, based on experience with people complaining about being forced to stay in a match no matter what. They didn't get it right then, and it sounds like the game is highly prone to becoming unbalanced when even a single player leaves. You want to know what the simplest fix to that problem would have been? Upping the player count. Another way would be to make the weapons harder to master. Or giving you a finite amount of health allowing you to whittle away at people or force a retreat...

There are so many ways to fix this issue, none of them likely to be implemented because they are simply not accounted for with how the game was designed.

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You see, I could say the inverse of all of the things you said about me, about you. You never seem to be critical of anything at all. However because I am not like you, I am not going to automatically assume you are a flagrant idiot who loves chucking his money out the window before breaking down what he wants in a game and reading all of the reviews and test-driving the product to see if it lives up to the hype. From what I've heard, the campaign is one of the better in the series but the multi-player sounds like more of the same. You have to understand that I didn't like the multi-player in Halo 2, and since all subsequent titles seem to be derivatives thereof I'm not going to like them either. You should also notice that Halo: Combat Evolved didn't have any problems with mid-game joining, and that it has absolutely nothing to do with the platform.

So really, what the fuck. Dude.

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I'm not only talking from a technical standpoint. There is quite a difference between CoD joining-mid-game and Halo joining-mid-game for instance. The gameplay is entirely different and as a result the experience is going to feel different, if not crass. Halo is one of those games where spontaneous shit happens and it's silly to not expect that out of a Halo title, even with this. You die instantly in CoD compared to Halo, so dying isn't as big of a deal in CoD. However, with Halo you can have a higher survivability and thus dying from being put into a shit game is a lot more frustrating. You're right about the technical aspects because consoles are really computers used for gaming. However, the difference in gameplay changes how those aspects play out.

As far as being thrown into shit games, there really isn't much to say here. Shit like that happens. Unless for some reason you get this pissed-off when you join Halo PC games midgame, don't take it so fucking seriously. You could also, I don't know, not use the feature? Try waiting for a game maybe? Point being, YES, you are acting like this game is utter shit because one feature has bugs and borks.

Regardless, you and I are opposites, so you can state the inverse. However, I value my money and investments DIFFERENTLY than you do. I find more joy in different things than you do. I love some of that extraneous shit they want me to use. I don't find a problem with it. I don't mind the spontaneous insanity that happens in Halo games. It's why I play them in the first place. Just because I am not as critical about them doesn't mean I chuck my money out the window. It means I can enjoy something even if it isn't always up to the best possible standards. I also want to note that I really don't give a single shit about joining-midgame. It's a very wanky feature (always has been to begin with in my experience and opinion) given how many ridiculous variables come and go compared to starting a game from the beginning. I mean, it works for games like Halo PC where winning/losing doesn't mean shit and there's really no competitive edginess going on half of the time, but honestly you're expecting way too much out of a feature that can put you in a horendously losing battle at any time.

EDIT: From what I'm reading, you and I are in the same boat regardless: neither have played the game to a great extent. Therefore, why the fuck can we be arguing about it?