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I too pre-ordered the game just because of this post
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Originally Posted by ODX
I too pre-ordered the game just because of this post
If you want a realistic war experience, join the military. This is a video game, nothing about it has to be, or is, realistic at all.
In all honesty, I don't think the IERC will be that big of a problem. It's pretty much a predator missile but moves much more slowly and you don't get an aerial view to drop it from. This limits you to using it on an enemy in your line of sight, driving after someone via UAV/Radar, or sitting in one spot exposed while driving it around. The ballistic knife is pretty ridiculous, and I hope that you only get one or two shots with it and that it is effected by gravity.
Apparently the reticle is customizable. Also, there may or may not be a 'jump and go prone' option, which is nice to see (though I hope you are unable to shoot while doing so). It seems there is a napalm kill streak as well, and hopefully they have a game mode that disables kill streaks like in Modern Warfare 2.
I for one am more interested in the story than the multiplayer as I kind of enjoyed the story in Modern Warfare 2 despite its ridiculousness. Also, is a zombie mode confirmed? Part of me was hoping instead of zombies, they went with communist aliens or something new and more interesting.
I'll get it when it goes on sale on steam (which, seeing how MW2 is still $60, may be a few years), or if I really feel like spending$50$60(?) on it.
M16 RDS, M40 ACOG, UMP, ACR, SCAR, FAMAS, Intervention (you are not a replacement for my R700)...
People who use these weapons. Fuck off.
You think I'm lying but I'm not ! (besides it was a free pre-order for trading in vidya games and it might be a good game)
I never played the first one, but in mw2 something is seriously fucked up with the scar. its ridiculously powerful. also, fuck shotguns. fuck all of them
M1014 with grip and extended mags is a bastard.
or you know the shotgun you get right off the bat, SPAS, and never misses a target 50 yds+ 1 shot kill.....
what makes the famas different from the m16? they both seem to be buttfuck powerful and accurate
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I bet you guys can't wait for the new $30 DLC. It will only cost $35! It will have all the maps from MW2 in it! And it will only cost $40!
Indeed I too am somewhat excited for the campaign. The setting is something I suppose is 'unique,' and with the way that Treyarch copies Infinity Ward so much not even in just MP, but SP too (think: Ghillie in the Mist>Vendetta) and with the amount of variety found in MW2, it's [hopefully] safe to say this campaign will be just as fun (and action packed ._.) as MW2's.Quote:
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Or, they could say "MP is the best it gives money screw SP lololol" and fuck us over big time.
Yeah M1014+Grip+Extended mags becomes that, only it's semi automatic.Quote:
Originally Posted by iizahsum
People can complain about the rangers all they want. But an M1014 with grip and extended mags is a goddamn bastard. The striker.....well the striker is an even bigger bastard with extended mags. Just ask Sever.
MW2's campaign was a shitfest. Action packed? More like let's put a shit load of enemies everywhere with autoaim, and try and make the main character go right through them, and see how fast he gets shot with a rocket, at close range. (seriously though, storyline was alright, but how they made it sucked dick, imo)
Personally the highlight of the campaign in MW2 for me was when your in D.C. it just felt intense, the music was pretty spot on with the "drama" and the overall setting really set a dark mood, the rain helped as well. everything after that seemed like it tried to some super stealth yet everything explodes action movie.
Actaully now that I think about it, ever since CoD 4 the Marine levels were the ones I actually really enjoyed. My favorite Task force levels would have to be the first level of CoD 4 and the airplane one that gives you like 30 sec. to complete.
Bobby will add silly hats you can get from random drops in game but you have to pay $15 a month to be able to earn themQuote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
And I would pay him every month to do it until Gaben sues him
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we have already seen that its a clone of mw2. the scoring system is the same, the art style is the same, and the whole experience is going to be the same. normally when we have these threads, somebody comes along and says "you cant make any judgments on gameplay because you havent played it", and NORMALLY i would agree with them. its the fact that all of the recent call of dutys basically play exactly the god damn same way. its clone after clone of cod 4. we all know how its going to play out.
console gamers, consider this: cod4 through blackops (and probably another too in the near future) have all been on the ps3/xbox360. this means you use the same live account or psn for all of these games. what if every cod game played differently, had totally (or at least somewhat) different gameplay, and wasnt basically just a rehash of the last game with more/different/the same toys. theyre all on the same system, so you wouldnt be inconvenienced to switch between consoles, and the series wouldnt be so fucking obnoxious.
i mean clearly theres money in exploiting the sheep gamers and giving them the same god damn thing over and over again without fixing any problems, but for fucks sake, the game has so many fundamental issues that people just ignore. why the fuck cant developers FIX the god damn issues in addition to making some pretty new models and photocapped textures? its not like they really have to think the gameplay out or anything. im pretty sure any one of us can think of 10+ major gameplay issues with any call of duty game right off the top of our heads.
Your right, real pros use M4's with 4x ACOG and red dotQuote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
Its a point and shoot game. Each gun does the same amount of damage.
I don't think I even need to elaborate on how stupid this is, but I will anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
Besides the fact that different guns do vastly different amounts of damage, there are a lot of other factors which determine the overall effectiveness of a weapon. Recoil, idle sway, damage falloff, noise level, multipliers, magazine size, reload speed, etc. In this case, the M16 has an edge over virtually every other weapon, in every category besides extreme range sniping ability and full auto spray. It's simply too effective in a vast majority of situations, rendering most of the other weapons redundant in a competitive environment.
Bear in mind that I'm referring to the CoD 4 incarnation of the M16. MW2 is far too unbalanced and horrible for me to even care about.
its a point and shoot game where every weapon does a different amount of damage, has different damage multipliers, and standoffs where two people unload and one person survives by one shot are all too common. paladin i would expect you to understand that
Hm? Regardless if they do slightly different things just choose any assault rifle or an UMP/Vector from the SMG section and you're good to go. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
How is running around knifing with Marathon Pro-Lightweight Pro-Commando Pro unbalanced? Also you didn't post any examples of why MW2 is unbalanced or weapon comparisons, tell me moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
If you're not trolling, you're just wrong. You can look up precisely how much damage a single shot from each gun does, and they are very different.Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
yoko i already gave an explanation of the tar21 being unbalanced. look back and youll find it.
another example: one man army / danger close / grenade launcher. you end up with infinite grenades / ammo to launch at people. while you do lose your secondary weapon, its hardly an issue with a gun like the tar21 that kills so quickly anyway. when you play a whole team of people using grenade launchers, you rarely have a chance to do anything without getting blown up because the range is so huge on them
another example: 3 round burst weapons kill in one burst, and landing the 3 rounds isnt difficult to do.
another example: the spas12. aside from its rate of fire, there is basically no reason to choose any other shotgun. it has such a ridiculous range compared to any other shotgun
ANOTHER example: the marathon pro / lightweight / commando thing. the ump kills so god damn fast that you rarely have an opportunity to react to people using it. in addition to that, they run ridiculously fast and have a huge knife lunge range to take you out with. aside from a few maps, there arnt many places where you can have a decent amount of time to react to knifers. have you ever played against a whole team of knifers? it sucks. alot.
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Originally Posted by Yoko
You are a good troll. Trying to imply that MW2 is balanced.
You do realize you can win a match in MW2 with just just air support? How is using your killstreaks to get more killstreaks balanced? How is a chopper gunner balanced?
Hey inferno this weapon called the stinger, it shoots everything down in one shot except for ac130 and pavelow. Equip it to a "blow shit down' class along with cold blooded next time you go in game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
Ironically, I thought the MP44 was extremely OP. Especially in hardcore mode. A single shot anywhere was a kill... and it didn't wobble. at all. I got somewhat decent at sniping across Overgrown with it..Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
That chart doesn't mention anything about weapon wobble either. Which is a big part of the game. The M16, G3 and MP44 don't wobble at all, where as the M4, AK and I THINK the G36 and M14 all wobble.
The only problem I have with CoD (in Multiplayer, not campaign) is that it gets sort of redundant after a while, especially when all the "pros" do is call in choppers and nukes, neither of which are balanced at all. The game is fun at times, don't get me wrong, but it gets old after a while, especially since once you get to a certain level it's all either headshots, snipers, SMGs, or Akimbos.
well now youre getting into playerbase issues, and not so much issues with the game itself. profags suck (except you m00kz, and inferno too :P), lets just leave it at that.
That's pretty much Xbox Live in general. Not just COD.
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Chopper is really easy to take out what's to bitch about?
Sure a chopper is easy to take out. Oh wait, no one actually ever bothers because they are too busy equipping OP perks and akimbo glocks to use a stinger.
Why balance a game when you can just throw more crap into it and hope it balances itsel. Then if the community complains, patch the game and charge 20 bucks.
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Yo dawg
I heard you like the m16, ak47, juggernaut in MW1
I heard you like the mp40, MG42, juggernaut in WaW
I heard you like ACR, UMP, M16, TAR-21, Famas, SCAR, WA2000, Glock 18, Spas-12, Ranger, m1014, model 1887, rpg's, all the perks in MW2.
Just imagine if they did add a grip feature to the Assault Rifles in mw2....har.
A public beta would have helped a lot for MW2 during that summer. Same for Black Ops, but they "said" there will be one..
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gt...02708?type=flv
Some stuff in there I hadn't noticed, but still nothing groundbreakingly new.
all my bitching aside, that is a pretty cool trailer. the music is awesome.
oh look, they made the minimap a grid. just like Battlefield did, um, eight years ago.
MW2 has scarred me for life.
I dunno 'bout this.
Truth be told, I might rent it. Only because the environments and atmosphere interest me. Otherwise it's just going to be a MW2 clone.
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Originally Posted by TeeKup
No way I'm plonking down $60 for this, but World at War was actually kind of fun. Renting means that Activision doesn't get any more money then they already made from the rental service and I get to pay considerably less for a game I wouldn't want to keep.
Really all I care about is the story (as people have said before), multiplayer is the same crap I've already got three different versions of.
Why do I need a fourth?
Pssh, I won't even rent it. I'll mooch it off of a friend if I want to play it. (doubtfully will)
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Originally Posted by Yoko
Black Ops Collector's Edition comes with a real remote controlled car!
Bobby Kotick just sealed the deal right there
Does it explode?Quote:
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I'm sure you can buy some grenades or dynamite from some rednecks. :v:Quote:
Originally Posted by iizahsum
Now I face an issue since I want the Reach console and I want that remote controllable car :ohdear:
Here's an easy question: which one will you find more entertainment from for a longer time period?
I need to reply more often.....
I saw the Barebones Pro playlist. I love the campaigns (so there's a tiny bit of motivation), but if I do get BlackOps, it'll be sheerly to play that one playlist.
I'll just rent it, fuck paying $130 for another MW2 (which I didn't buy either)
Back when I actually cared enough to try, I posted lots of things both here and on the IW forums suggesting how MW2 could have been improved. No one cared then, and I don't imagine anyone still playing this game actually cares now. If you search around hard enough, I'm sure you can find a few of my rants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoko
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International production companies dont listen to what I say.
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Not just me, a lot of people. A good portion of Infinity Ward's fanbase that have been around since Call of Duty 1 were disgusted with MW2. Go look in their forums, it's pretty much a seething pit of rage and hate. I have a hard time imagining that Black Ops will do anything to redeem the series in the eyes of veteran CoD players.Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
I realize now that if IW (and I guess Treyarch, but they were never good) wants to ditch their hardcore fanbase in favor of 'flavor of the year' kiddies, no one can really stop them. The only thing people like me can do is stop buying their games.
$$ > a few thousand people
Why do you fuel the fire then?Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
how so. By telling those of you who whine to not buy the game if your not satisfied with it? Why even post a thread if all your going to do is say how bad it is?
I um...Quote:
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What?
Do you actually read the thread, or do you just look at the last post and write the first idiotic thing that comes to mind?
Why post a thread about a good game if all your going to do is praise it?Quote:
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Philsopherno
You stated that money will always win over the voices of a few thousand players. Yes, especially at Activision. You bought the game knowing that. Why do you let them dictate what YOU WANT rather than letting them know yourself? Why do you buy shit you already own: Hidden DLC maps, maps from games you already own, stolen maps from the community.Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
When you say we whine, bitch, and moan because we're not satisfied. What the hell is there to be satisfied with if the game is not even out yet? We are simply letting everyone know that it's a clone of the previous fucking game in another timeline with the same features with a couple sprinkles on top to make people think it's different. EA is trying to pull this same shit: BC2->MoH. Same game, different skins and models.
sometimes all we can do is bitch about the existing games to make us feel better and help us take our minds off of the bleak direction the videogame market seems to be going. and who knows, maybe one day somebody will see these rants, get inspired, and go start an independent game development group and put out some of the best games yet. wishful thinking, but at least thats my motivation.
Which is why I try to support Valve, and Indy game devs as much as possible. Not to mention the games are actually enjoyable.
'Leaked' gameplay of a snowy level, features the crossbow a lot. Skip to 8:00 if you want to see most of the screen though, instead of just the left side due to horrible camera placement >_>
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I dont let them dictate what I want. If the game doesnt look interesting to me, I simply wont buy it. What I dont do I go on the internet and complain about what its not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amit
if nobody says anything, then how will it change?
You have opinions people.
You can like it or not, you can buy it or you don't have to buy it, you can play it or you can stick with some other games.
You can rent it and not buy it, you can criticize and bash it here but treyarch wont bother to come here to look.
and we cant attempt to raise awareness of shittiness in video games?
Dont buy the game. That says you dont like it. Having to announce to the world your not going to buy something is arrogant. Do it via twitter.Quote:
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I cant even begin to say how ridiculous that sounds. Every year theres someone at the beach with a legalize marijuana petition...Quote:
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I can't tell if you're really that stupid, or just a bad troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
People have just as much right to say they think a game is going to suck, or that it's bad, as you have to post that it's going to be good.
Some people seem to remember that CoD used to be good, and it could be again. If nobody ever complains, nothing gets fixed.
For my part, I just don't care anymore.
paladin, like i said before, im seeing nothing but a bleak future in the videogame industry. in the past few years there have been a ton of game releases. i can only think of a handful that were actually good. big corporate heads are using the industry to get money, and fucking over the gamer. look at activision. look what theyre doing with their games. look was ubisoft did with assassins creed 2 on PC. this isnt about marijuana, this is about people not doing anything about getting fucked over. marijuana is an issue of legality. this is an issue of some greedy fuck not caring about the end consumer. the more people that realize this -> the less people put up with this shit -> the more inspired people that create their own indie game development teams -> reforming the whole industry. im not sitting here talking out my ass with wishful thinking. what i suggested is a legitimate reality. we have seen plenty of indie devs so far. the shit theyve been putting out is great. look at minecraft for example: programmed from scratch in java by one guy, costs 10 euros to play forever, and its a fucking awesome game.
does anybody ELSE think i sound stupid right now? please speak up if you do, because i dont think what im saying is too stupid. im sure somebody here agrees with me.
E: i know im coming off as a bit inflammatory here, and i mean you no disrespect paladin, but the main point here is look how popular call of duty is. look how many people play this game. the ridiculously vast majority of the playerbase are idiots who dont care how shit the game actually is. they just care about it because its the name brand. its almost turning into a fucking abercrombie and fitch deal: playing the game because its popular. i figure let the industry split in two directions: the sheep who blindly play the shitty corporate games, and the intelligent gamers like us who choose good games. im almost making gaming sound like a religion, but thats because for some of us it fucking is.
I've actually been made fun of because I "don't play hardcore Call of Duty" and play games like Super Mario Galaxy 2 instead.
It's really, really sad.
It woudl be more hilarious if you could kick their asses in cod
no ones getting fucked over for the 100th time, if you don't like the game don't buy it. if you wanna be sure you're playing a good game buy valve pc titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donut
IN THE CITY, ONE GAMERQuote:
Originally Posted by Donut
ALONE AGAINST THE HORDES OF ACTIVISION FANBOYS
DECIDES WHAT GAMES ARE BAD...
AND WHAT ARE GOOD.
THIS NOVEMBER IN THEATERS EVERYWHERE:
DONUT TELLS US WHAT WE SHOULD LIKE,
AND IF YOU LIKE CALL OF DUTY, YOU'RE UNINTELLIGENT
This excerpt from your anecdote is non fiction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoko
To be honest, he's right. While he may have been a bit extreme in saying that the gamer is being "fucked over", the industry puts out a lot of hyped up shit. Whether or not you think COD is an example of a shitty track-game is irrelevant. It's pretty obvious that this is a common trend.
yeah fucked over was a bit much, but jesus christ you guys. way to totally disregard everything else in my post and jump on the one part that suggests im calling you guys stupid. im not. im saying cod is a poorly done game, and if you think its a good game, then youre wrong. fun maybe, but not good. i enjoy mw2 from time to time too, albeit usually only for about 5 minutes before it pisses me off, but you get the idea.
Oh ho ho, no no! I'm on PC so I'm instantly a noob and don't know how to play the game because I don't have hardcore Xboxxxx !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Syuusuke
I've skimmed the last 20 posts and saw a lot of bickering.
Every single industry has it's crapshots. The majority of the human race has been sheer crap, but the minority which hasn't has kept the others afloat. As long as there are big drivers in play (ie, GTA, Halo, WoW, etc) there will be others who will coast off them. The big dogs show there is a market, which others will always try to get in on. While some of the more "hardcore" gamers may see what they think is a crappy knock off or complete bust of a game, there will be some average joe out there who will end up buying said knock off.
So no matter what you think, say, or do, you cannot stop the rest of the population from being themselves. There will always be a Ying and a Yang, two sides to the coin, an equal and opposite action/reaction.
There will always be bandwagons too. No stopping them either, because once you get a snow ball rolling, it won't stop until it hits something it can't roll over.
So everyone: shut the fuck up. Get back to talking about the new CoD game. I don't want to come back after hearing or seeing some jaded little bitch getting all emo about what they think is "wrong" with games or the industry. Music has its shit. TV has its shit. Everything has its shit. Deal with it. Flush what's yours, pull up your pants, and drive on.
End. Of. Story.
I liked mw2 so I think Black Ops will also be a good game
I bet most of you that say mw2 is turrble and that Black Ops will be turrble haven't even played mw2 ~
I've played MW (not online) and MW2 (both campaign and online). Aside from the various glitches that riddled it at release, it was alright. However, there hasn't been anything in the past CoD games that really set them apart from other shooters to where I would want to actively play them. To me, they also don't do enough balancing acts. Why would you, in matchmaking, shove a fresh face into a match which has people already half way thru another prestige? They could also learn a thing for two about UI design and usability testing.
Because of those bad experiences, I haven't kept up with BO so I don't even know if they've fixed these previous issues.
You might feel differently if you had tried Call of Duty 4 online, as it's dramatically better than any of the CoD games that have come since. Rank, even prestige, makes very little difference in matchmaking since you start with the most OP gun in the game at level 1. The weapons you get from that point on go from general purpose to being more and more specialized.Quote:
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Makes it faster and easier to get a game together for one, and people can be max prestige without even playing a lot. That is if they get into hacked lobbies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
Me and Rook played a game with a guy who was bragging about being level 70 10th prestige. He went 2-27. Especially in PC levels don't really mean anything; in MW2 you get decent guns to start out with too. AK47 is the last assault rifle to unlock and it's been underpowered after cod4, the good ARs and other weapons you unlock early/have already. Of course there are moments in MW2 where Bobby Kotick never fails to piss me off, basically when anything happens in that game. People just hate it because IW didn't cater to PC players needs, hopefully they'll fix some of their problems in Black Ops. If they do I'll buy a dedi for all of you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
I don't know, I could hit pretty hard with the AK-47. Even still though it is out matched by the bloody ACR.
I hate MW2 because it sucks, I've only played it on the xbox.Quote:
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http://www.totalvideogames.com/Call-...ain-14981.html
http://www.totalvideogames.com/Call-...ure-15404.html
anybody else heard about this? rumors surfacing that blackops will have a monthly subscription fee for online.
that doesnt sound like a subscription fee to me though. sounds like theyre going to do something similar to halo wars later on. then i read this:Quote:
"In addition to downloadable content, we expect to explore, analyse and pursue opportunities to expand the brand into new geographies, genres and business models. We look forward to sharing more details with you regarding our plans in the coming months," said Activision CEO and President, Michael Griffith in a post-report conference call.
you can see the basis for the concern of pay for play online. does anybody have any other sources on this?Quote:
When asked more recently about the one decision he would make if he could, Kotick claimed:
"I would have Call of Duty be an online subscription service tomorrow. When you think about what the audience's interests are and how you could really satisfy bigger audiences with more inspired, creative opportunities, I would love to see us have an online Call of Duty world. I think our players would just have so much of a more compelling experience."
Two words. Xbox.
if youre talking about xbl, thats the users pay monthly, 3 month, or yearly for a universal live service. the idea here is that cod:BO has its own pay to play system on top of that. unless this pay to play thing is pc only. there isnt any specific confirmation yet as far as i know so idk what to say at this point. i figured its worth mentioning.
E: lol paladin, two words?
http://disney.spiderpaws.com/images/phil.gif
Two words kid: XBOX
But yeah, that is disturbing. On top of that, I don't see how COD could be expanded past match-based games. An entire online world? Call of warcraft anyone? What comes to mind is a massive open world, far cry 2 style, except instead of AI its a bunch of dudes walking around shooting each other without time limit. (this might be fun if implemented correctly, but not really more of an expansion of the game than a giant map).
Im p sure p2p is for PC only.
But you never know V:iamafag:V
GFWL Gold was paid for a couple years, why the hell wouldn't they try it? I doubt BO will have this subscription service, though. Treyarch doesn't try hard to piss off their fans. They just copy the shit IW does and then add some features. I particularly liked WaW's European Campaign. I know they got some PC loving guys at Treyarch too.
I expect this kind of bullshit to hit MW3.
I read that as Kotick considering a Call of Duty MMORPFPS, which really, ain't too far from Modern Warfare 2's current design. Just throw in some character customizing, paperdolling, and scrap the main menu interface for an in-game hub, and you've got World of Duty/EverCoD.
Hell, Pooky and I were comparing MW2 and WoW's addictive features one night, and they're scarily similar...
e: Also, you forgot the "I'm too damn poor to play this vidya game" option.
Gungame
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I would fucking play gungame to death. Right after crackers crack the online and I pirate the game.Quote:
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Eh. Generic and they reused some animations very badly.
Personally I would buy it but Ima rent it because Reach won't be shiity in gameplay compared to BO.
Also a minigun? Fuck this, I'll spray the fuck out of you so its 100x worse then the last games when I sprayed :smith:
so now its call of duty with a reason not to lose besides your K/D? its cool that theyre adding new game modes, but christ its going to be all campers and people abusing whatever weapon ends up being the new mp5 or ump. im glad that gametype is its own game mode.
E: that "gun game" mode is kind of cool. i like how they said it came from the community. it seems treyarch are listening to their fans.
Also wager matches are gonna be camp outs where everyone is afraid to move and risk losing in game money, bring tents and marshmallowsQuote:
Originally Posted by Donut
Dear god, why must they encourage more noobtube tactics with that video?
oh, figures they ripped it off from another popular game. either way, it still kind of looks cool. it would be nice if they had a playlist for that let you play those new game modes but without that risk of losing dollars. something tells me youll need them for unlocks or something
Gun game is totally CSS. Also, the graphs looks worse than MW2, is Treyarch using the same engine?
The same engine with some modifications.Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
Imo, I think it looks better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G94SolEtpnc&feature=recentlik
Whoa...they've actually added quite a bit. Chances are this will make people think Treyarch>IW though, which seems kind of likely now in some ways to be honest.
-Theatre
-New Game Modes
-Player/Perk/Weapon Customization+
-Contracts (kind of like Challenges, watch the video for info)
I'm not sure I can hate this. Looks like they're trying to make it a bit more fun than, say, the pile than was MW2.
I'm gonna agree with you on this, it's more creative and seems more fun then MW2. But it did change my perspective of what BO is.Quote:
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