CH3MT stuff

k well i guess ill just post all the work that my team has gotten done.
k here are some pics:
Battle rifle (still WIP on finishing skin)
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7049/donedt8.jpg
model by me skin by me

Assault rifle
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4875/ardoneez8.jpg
model by me skin by me



Sniper rifle
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7752/srpz6.jpg
model by M-562 skin by me


pistol
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2984/pistollr6.jpg

model by me no skin at teh moment


SPLAZA
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3...azerfinuh1.jpg
model by M-562 no skin at moment



SHOTGAT
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2159/sgcf8.jpg
model by me skin by me

http://www.freewebs.com/ch3mt/halo3_weapons.jpg
models by paintballkid no skins at teh moment

You should change the color of the background to white or add lighting for some of those renders (mainly the ones that have skins on them). For the ones that i could see clearly, they look pretty decent.

Also, what is with the hole in the SL?

idk not my model

theres supposed to be like that switch there, and i thought it would be logical to have a flat area to change that switch in. I think its not too bad to have a lil variation from the original halo 3 (paint can argue with me about that but wth)

can't see shit. your reders are too damn bright, make the darker!

bright? wth? there darker than bright

lol too bright? I can hardly see the shotgun lol

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Originally Posted by Tweek

can't see shit. your reders are too damn bright, make the darker!

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They look ok, the details in the magnum are extruded backwards to much. And the sniper rifle is getting there.

The assult rifle skin is to dark , it needs to be a more birghter tone of grey.

teh details on magnum are not extruded to backwards the skin on ar if it gets brighter than bye bye h3 ar hello sun!

There not? They are miles back!
Look at mine:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ball/Fixed.png

And look at bungies:

http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/...etH3pistol.jpg

Mine isn't perfect but the size is more or less correct.

yeah but far away it looks liek its extruded back up close its normal.

It wont when textures are on. And on the handle you have just extruded it backwards were the detail is, you need to bevel it a bit.

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Originally Posted by WMHunterTLS

There not? They are miles back!
Look at mine:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ball/Fixed.png

And look at bungies:

http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/...etH3pistol.jpg

Mine isnt perfect but the size is mor or less correct.

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And people used to criticize that model of yours for the handle being too square.. :P

To OP, mostly too dark to see, and the pistol looks like a nerf gun.

Yes, i know, that is the reason i said it isn't perfect.

Open both Spoiler tags and compare the two handles. If you ask me id say that my handle is more or less the same as bungies....

Ontopic: I'm just giving you tips on how to improve on your model.

Don't bother, it's like talkin to a fucking brick wall.

but i'll attempt again anyway. Get better renders with and without skins, as well as wireframes. so far all i see is some mediocre textures on some poor, inaccurate, models

I see no hinge on the handle of the spartan laser. The battle rifle's grip is very fat, that could be a problem. The assault rifle's display is a bit bloated too, and the magnum sort of looks like a redo.

well here is one render but no wireframes... it's all i can get for now.. because i have to go somewhere tonight.. but we'll keep ya updated.

and penguin, we are open to suggestions on our models.

EDIT: the textures are a little streched in some places.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...wow_render.jpg





http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...llakid5/br.jpg




http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...lakid5/br2.jpg

It's a little squad, the grip is too round and it just needs some general tweekage overall. I don't moddle, but to me it looks like you should just use that and smooth the edges out. It looks fine when you look at it in a "2d" perspective, but when it's tilted it looks somewhat off.

we don't want pretty renders. we want to see a straight render of the gun showing both sides as well as a wireframe, you want suggestions give us the criteria to give them. right now all i can say is looks like crap. also uv map is terrible, doesn't even align with the gun.

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http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...lakid5/br2.jpg

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It's hard to tell from that angle and the skin, but the model looks really... "unclean." It seems a bit deformed and ununiform in places where it should be, like the intrusions on the sides and the grip.

The assault rifle texture seems odd. Make the scratches look less like the assault rifle was in a paint ball gun war.

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Originally Posted by NuggetWarmer

The assault rifle texture seems odd. Make the scratches look less like the assault rifle was in a paint ball gun war.

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maybe it was:XD:

and i'll get the wirframes as soon as i get back today, i'm gone all day.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...eframe_br2.jpg



http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...reframe_br.jpg

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That is a wire frame yes, but it is usually better to do this technique:

1. Click all parts of your model.
2. Press Ctrl + V, and "Copy" the model (Do not un-select copies.)
3. Go to the modifier drop down box and look for "Push"
4. Put the settings to about 0.1 - 0.3
5. Open material editor, then go to an empty material slot and make it black, and check the "Wireframe" check box. (Not wireframe in the rendering details)
6. Then drag the wireframe material onto the selected objects, and select "apply to selection"

And then you have a good and easy to see wireframe.

Are they custom textures on that BR?

[Edit] Sorry about double post, I didn't look if I had a post above.

why does the gas tube have a flash hider/muzzle brake?? the part below the barrel is supposed to be a capped cylinder, no bullets come out of that, so don't put a flash hider/muzzle brake on it :lmao:

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Originally Posted by WMHunterTLS

Are they custom textures on that BR?

[Edit] Sorry about double post, I didn't look if I had a post above.

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Yeah, all these textures are made by CSfloyd.. and as soon as i get my Photoshop(hopefully this weekend)i'll start making some to.

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Originally Posted by paintballakid5

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...eframe_br2.jpg



http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...reframe_br.jpg

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IT BURNS OH GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?!

SNAF, HELP ME, MY EYES, THYE'RE ABURNIN!


edit: to the people quoting me on the first page, holy fucking shit, you're fucking idiots for whining about typos, and not noticing the most obvious sarcasm the intrnet has seen in WEEKS

:D Just wanted to point it out in-case you didn't realize, and because your all having a go at me about spelling and stuff :D. lol

No offense though Tweek :D

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Originally Posted by WMHunterTLS

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That is a wire frame yes, but it is usually better to do this technique:

1. Click all parts of your model.
2. Press Ctrl + V, and "Copy" the model (Do not un-select copies.)
3. Go to the modifier drop down box and look for "Push"
4. Put the settings to about 0.1 - 0.3
5. Open material editor, then go to an empty material slot and make it black, and check the "Wireframe" check box. (Not wireframe in the rendering details)
6. Then drag the wireframe material onto the selected objects, and select "apply to selection"

And then you have a good and easy to see wireframe.

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Please do that ^
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Originally Posted by Tweek

edit: to the people quoting me on the first page, holy fucking shit, you're fucking idiots for whining about typos, and not noticing the most obvious sarcasm the intrnet has seen in WEEKS

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yeah i was loling at that when i first saw

tbqh, this thread is full of frozen stupid since page 1

by the way, uv'ing your reference image onto your model looks terrible.

Whats with the triangle bits? Not a single one of those points look like they line up (are the same height) Which would be needed to make them look right....

Here are the vertexes I can see, it looks horrible:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ll/br_crap.jpg

I have made the triangle parts and put the vertex's in neatly...

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ll/BR_Part.png

yeah, i must admit that part is pretty bad looking... (this isn't my model) i'll get CSfloyd to work on it some more...

seems to me he created a bunch of random vertices and created faces :X

maybe.. i don't know.. i didn't watch him model it... but i'll have him fix as soon as he logs on tommorow.

Ok. Good.

ok, i didn't have time to Ask CSFLOYD to fix the lil problem we were discussing but i did have tim etoday to get a New wireframe for TLSHunter :D


http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...id5/battle.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...ttle_wired.jpg

sorry for the Double Post but.. i fixed the Triangle thingys

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/battle-1.jpg

:awesome:yeah no matter what i did it wouldnt get rid of em. YAY PAINT but to bad i have to re unwrap and reskin :C :smithicide:

Hate to break it to you.. You already had to do those things :eyesroll:

Follow your references more closely. I'd also redo the skins if I were you.

well lik ei said Before, this isn't my Model, i'm just Helping it along.

I think i'm going to release my BR soon. When i do that, you can get a real hands on reference of a well modeled BR. Or, you could just my already made tags, complete with 3Pmodel /FPmodel / and FP animations by flyinrooster.

hmm ive never seen your model cause i dont usually go exploring... where can i see pics?

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Originally Posted by CSFLOYD

hmm ive never seen your model cause i dont usually go exploring... where can i see pics?

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By searching.

haha, search is your friend.

Now, where might one see the custom Fp animations? :)

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Now, where might one see the custom Fp animations? :)

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of WOL BR or CH3MT's? FP anims?

I'd like to see both, but I was talking about WOL's br. Flyinrooster is a really good animator and I like to see his work.

ok, but i haven't started Animating our BR :)

When you do post some renders and prepare for my judgment :)

Things that i see that need to be fixed (taken from the render posted on the 21st):
1) That awkward face in this render. (located in the right)

2) The thing you pull at reload (I seriously can't remember the name right now D: ) has too many polies (mainly the sphere). It can easily be replaced by a lower res sphere.

3) Side too flat and has a non planar vertex.

4) The triangle part is still not properly aligned (it might be my vision or the angle).

The rest I cannot tell from the angle. Keep working on it.

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ok, but i haven't started Animating our BR :)

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Hope it turns out better than that video of these sniper animations that are...ehm... :gonk:

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Originally Posted by Invader Veex

Hope it turns out better than that video of these sniper animations that are...ehm... :gonk:

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:eek:you thought we were gonna use those?:eek:

well rest asure... we are not going to use those animations... i'm not even sure why we posted those on there....:rolleyes:

and thanks omega Dragon... we'll get to those errors ASAP.:woot:

ok, i know this is a double post, so sorry..;)

but i was up late last night working on our spiker animations.. and so far i only have the Idle.. i'm still working on trying to get the Melee to work.:(

but here is a picture..

if it's to dark, let me know, i'll get another picture.
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/spikerfp.jpg




i was also modeling a lil bit yesterday.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...lakid5/smg.jpg

that's gotta be some of the worst positioning i've ever seen. aslso, smg looks pretty gross already. pay more attention to your thicknesses and such.

since when does your arm come out of your neck :confused:

Since when is the spiker bigger than his arms .-.

Not to look conceded, but here

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z...h3mtspiker.jpg

Try to make the spiker origin look a little more like this. Its definitely not perfection but its much better than what you showed

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since when does your arm come out of your neck :confused:

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since when i said...:lol:

and @ snaf, yeah, i thought i was doing something wrong with the thickness, but i'll work on it some more..

and the positioning isn't done, i'm still getting it perfected...

and i need to re-do the back Textures..

EDIT: this is my first weapon i have ever animated.

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Originally Posted by paintballakid5

sorry for the Double Post but.. i fixed the Triangle thingys

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/battle-1.jpg

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HOLY SHIT HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU USE BOOLEAN ON THAT D:


Seriously, I can tell very easily. The shitload of nonplanar faces, the boolean'd triangles, everything looks like shit.

Start over.

(I havent read past this page so if someone has already pointed this out I swear I'm not copying them.)

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Originally Posted by FlamingRain

HOLY SHIT HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU USE BOOLEAN ON THAT D:


Seriously, I can tell very easily. The shitload of nonplanar faces, the boolean'd triangles, everything looks like shit.

Start over.

(I havent read past this page so if someone has already pointed this out I swear I'm not copying them.)

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well, as i had stated in one of my posts, that is not my model.:rolleyes: Csfloyd modeled that. i'm just trying to fix the stuff on it.

has anyone noticed that the actual weapons and such are low poly at the superhigh lod cutoff level when looking at them?
Just a question lol

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Originally Posted by paintballakid5

well, as i had stated in one of my posts, that is not my model.:rolleyes: Csfloyd modeled that. i'm just trying to fix the stuff on it.

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You should still be receptive to advice and crit however; as you claim to be responsible for fixing its problems. Speaking of which :

-Clip arrow at the bottom rear was done incorrectly - redo those faces
-Front grip doesn't look too comfotable
-There's a lot of generally "dirty" polies at the back, please fix those
-Geometry near the ammo counter is "dirty" as well

ok, i have re-done the Splaser, and CSfloyd has been working on first person Hands.

here they are.

Mental note"theyre still in WIP";)

and the Splaser is an Actual Halo splaser, not the Concept art that someone came up with.;)

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...laser_nice.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...OMGPWNZORS.jpg

BURN IT! :gonk:

that Sp-Lazer reminds me of that jewish bread, a little on the flat side.

The arms are clearly to short.

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Originally Posted by FlamingRain

HOLY SHIT HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU USE BOOLEAN ON THAT D:


Seriously, I can tell very easily. The shitload of nonplanar faces, the boolean'd triangles, everything looks like shit.

Start over.

(I havent read past this page so if someone has already pointed this out I swear I'm not copying them.)

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Must you use the word shit so much? There are plenty of other ways to communicate and even though what you said appears to be true, you don't need to be so harsh man

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Must you use the word shit so much? There are plenty of other ways to communicate and even though what you said appears to be true, you don't need to be so harsh man

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Agreed.

The laser barrel reminds me of a flashlight... =/

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The laser barrel reminds me of a flashlight... =/

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well thats good because a flashlight gives off Ligt, this gives off light and death..;)

sounds more like light of death to me. But somehow the renders you showed me over yahoo looked a bit diffirent. Did you change anything?

i added a skin.... thats about it, i'm not showing pictures yet, because it's super Beta.

now i made a new ligthmap from the h2_coagulation, beacuse I am using that bsp as beta map this is the progress
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9...ulightslp5.jpg

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Originally Posted by gordigo

now i made a new ligthmap from the h2_coagulation, beacuse I am using that bsp as beta map this is the progress
<use [shot] tags please>

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You made lightmaps for a ripped bsp from h2!?

Good work, man!

http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-downsbravo.gif

this is our hud progress
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/573/hahaya6.th.jpg



Bugs: Grenades backgrounds fuxxed, the health meter need more work, the shield meterr is in beta phase, i am working on the laser anims, but i dont have time lol

Laser anims need a full redo. I can tell just by the origin. The hud's shield meter has is too boldly outlined.

yeah but what do you think of the shield meter?

That's what he meant.

yeah. edited

ok so i know alot of you probably forgot about this teambut no worries were still working on stuff(at a slow rate) i don't have as much time as i wish i had.. but personal life is cuting into my CE time..:) but i've had some time recently so heres what i've been up to..

mental note not everything is done or even close to done, it's in Pre-alpha stages..;)

and yes i know He's not actually holding the Splaser.:rolleyes:

EDIT: the numbers on the AR are way to big..

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...llakid5/ar.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...lakid5/ar2.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...d5/grenade.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...id5/pistol.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...id5/sniper.jpg
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...id5/splasa.jpg

I hate it. Animations suck. Textures suck. And a few of the models aren't that great either.

I'd say pretty good job on the models. If you take any of my advice, take it with a metric ton of salt (as I also am a noob).

The AR bitmap doesn't look like its from any of the games, FP model of the pistol just looks a bit bulky, the bitmap for the sniper looks like wrong (I would say contrasted/saturized, but I'm probably misusing that), and the Spartan Laser bitmap looks a bit fuzzy (low resolution).

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Originally Posted by disaster

I hate it. Animations suck. Textures suck. And a few of the models aren't that great either.

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None of it looks good to me. I hate to be negative, but it all looks terrible.

what the hell is with that grenade grope/throw? :/

Your team needs another animator and skinner. Possibly a new modeler also.:shake:

Those models made my future babies cry.

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Those models made my future babies cry.

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good:dtonque:

and as for the rest of you... "pre alpha content" so none of this is even close to final.. abnd no were not going to permanently use CMT's ar skin ;)

Go back into your room for 10 months and come back when you have some better content to show.

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Originally Posted by Darkness

Go back into your room for 10 months and come back when you have some better content to show.

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0_o i would like to see some of your content..;)

Why show content that you know is bad, and it's 'pre-alpha'?

^ seriously. If you know nobody likes it, your just screwing your team and yourself.

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0_o i would like to see some of your content..;)

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Check the H3mt thread =/

Darkness has content in our thread? O_o

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Darkness has content in our thread? O_o

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i couldn't find any... 0_o

That h2 coagulation ripped sniper makes what already wasn't good beyond terrible. I think everybody's sick of that thing by now.

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That h2 coagulation ripped sniper makes what already wasn't good beyond terrible. I think everybody's sick of that thing by now.

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That sniper has been used in EVERY FUCKING HALO 2 MOD. and it still looks like black-sprayed shit.

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That h2 coagulation ripped sniper makes what already wasn't good beyond terrible. I think everybody's sick of that thing by now.

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i'm sick of it to, but i'm using it as a place holder until we model a Halo 3 sniper.:)

Guys please remember we are in pre alpha, we need more experience